Mahler vs. Dvorak!!!

Started by Dr. Dread, July 02, 2009, 10:16:21 AM

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Who's the man?

Dvorak
25 (43.1%)
Mahler
33 (56.9%)

Total Members Voted: 47

snyprrr

WHERE do I get those fun smileys??? I like the one eating popcorn.

not edward

I'm calling in my vote on my bananaphone.
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Gurn Blanston

No contest; the True Bohemian Master, Dvorak. :)

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marvinbrown

#25
Quote from: Florestan on July 02, 2009, 10:17:26 AM
Hey --- I might claim a copyright here!

 You?? I was the one that linked them together on the Mahler is a Gasbag thread $:)!!

  http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,13314.40.html
 marvin

Bulldog

It's a tough call, but I have to go with Dvorak for his more well-rounded compositional output.

DavidW

I voted for Mahler just because I know that he would lose.  There is a strong anti-Mahler sentiment on this board now.  It's as if people can't say "I like this" or "it doesn't move me" they have to take an all encompassing view of Mahler as Messiah or Mahler as the Antichrist. :D  It's really not that different from Eric's attempts to polarize the board around religious issues. ;D

ChamberNut

Overall composer - Dvorak (hands down).

Symphonies?  I'd like a tie option, please.  ;D

DavidRoss

Mahler.  He's a Golden Glove power hitter who bats .800.

Dvořák is a great middle reliever.

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ChamberNut

Quote from: DavidRoss on July 02, 2009, 02:41:41 PM
Mahler.  He's a Golden Glove power hitter who bats .800.

Dvořák is a great middle reliever.



Mahler batted 7 for 9.   A sacrifice fly with the 7th, and a strikeout on 3 pitches with the 8th.  ;D ;)

Brian

#31
Quote from: DavidRoss on July 02, 2009, 02:41:41 PM
Mahler.  He's a Golden Glove power hitter who bats .800.

Dvořák is a great middle reliever.

Quote from: ChamberNut on July 02, 2009, 02:42:56 PM
Mahler batted 7 for 9.   A sacrifice fly with the 7th, and a strikeout on 3 pitches with the 8th.  ;D ;)

The Composer All-Star Baseball Team - scouting report

Lineup:
[2B] Edvard Grieg - his miniatures almost all go for singles, but they make him a consistent threat to reach base
[CF] Antonin Dvořák - a smallball player extraordinaire, his chamber game is a major boost
[3B] Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - a true hit machine
[LF] Ludwig van Beethoven - the ideal cleanup hitter, because he sweeps the board
[1B] Gustav Mahler - his at-bats are usually either monster home runs or strikeouts
[RF] Maurice Ravel - he can orchestrate a rally like no other guy on the team
[SS] Johannes Brahms - dashing young slugger has mellowed with age
[C] Sergei Prokofiev - a clubhouse favorite, his nickname is "The Expecting Peregrine"*

Pitching Rotation:
[SP] Franz Schubert - don't let the boyish looks and glasses fool you. His mind is a steel trap and his fastball hits 960, er, 96
[SP] Dmitri Shostakovich - he can pitch in any genre, and gets even better under pressure
[SP] Richard Wagner - the workhouse has what it takes to pitch four hours every night for a week
[SP] Franz Liszt - all power and no control, Liszt can throw 101 but who knows where it'll go
[SP] Anton Bruckner - he can hardly throw over 70 mph, but will still outlast any foe

Relief Corps:
[RP] John Dowland - the lute-handed specialist or LOOGY
[RP] Johann Strauss jr - in case the situation is getting too serious
[RP] Steve Reich - he has just one pitch that he throws in a thousand different ways
[RP] Igor Stravinsky - dubbed the "Rite of October" for outstanding postseason play
[CLOSER] Georg Philip Telemann - he could keep throwing and throwing and throwing forever

Bench
[CATCHER] Max Reger - skilled at working with the more dour Germanics in the pitching staff
[FIRST BASE/OUTFIELD] G. F. Handel - he'd still be starting if it weren't for his weight problem
[MIDDLE INFIELD] George Gershwin - platoons with Brahms, batting against elitist teams, whom he baffles
[OUTFIELD] Antonio Vivaldi - the Red-Headed Menace produces big hits in a pinch
[OUTFIELD] Claude Debussy - easily distracted by clouds or playing by the sea
[UTILITY] Edward Elgar - used as a defensive replacement in losing battles**

Coach/Manager: Johann Sebastian Bach
Retired Player: Jean Sibelius. Quit before the eighth game of the season.
Sent to Minor Leagues: Hector Berlioz. Off-the-field issues - missed games while pining for some girl or another.
Suspended for Using Artificial Performance-Enhancing Substances: Mykola Ovsianiko-Kulikovsky

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*N.B. Peregrinus Expectati is, in fact, actually gibberish

**N.B. This is a joke about Victorian England, NOT about Elgar's compositional talent

Todd

A tough call.  Dvorak wrote a lot of great chamber music to his credit, whereas Mahler wrote none.  (And no, his juvenile Piano Quartet is not great.)  Dvorak wrote some great orchestral music, and Mahler, of course, wrote some of the greatest symphonies.  The tipping point for me is Mahler's Ninth.  Mahler wins.
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ChamberNut

Quote from: Brian on July 02, 2009, 03:43:22 PM
The Composer All-Star Baseball Team - scouting report

Lineup:
[2B] Edvard Grieg - his miniatures almost all go for singles, but they make him a consistent threat to reach base
[CF] Antonin Dvořák - a smallball player extraordinaire, his chamber game is a major boost
[3B] Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - a true hit machine
[LF] Ludwig van Beethoven - the ideal cleanup hitter, because he sweeps the board
[1B] Gustav Mahler - his at-bats are usually either monster home runs or strikeouts
[RF] Maurice Ravel - he can orchestrate a rally like no other guy on the team
[SS] Johannes Brahms - dashing young slugger has mellowed with age
[C] Sergei Prokofiev - a clubhouse favorite, his nickname is "The Expecting Peregrine"*

Pitching Rotation:
[SP] Franz Schubert - don't let the boyish looks and glasses fool you. His mind is a steel trap and his fastball hits 960, er, 96
[SP] Dmitri Shostakovich - he can pitch in any genre, and gets even better under pressure
[SP] Richard Wagner - the workhouse has what it takes to pitch four hours every night for a week
[SP] Franz Liszt - all power and no control, Liszt can throw 101 but who knows where it'll go
[SP] Anton Bruckner - he can hardly throw over 70 mph, but will still outlast any foe

Relief Corps:
[RP] John Dowland - the lute-handed specialist or LOOGY
[RP] Johann Strauss jr - in case the situation is getting too serious
[RP] Steve Reich - he has just one pitch that he throws in a thousand different ways
[RP] Igor Stravinsky - dubbed the "Rite of October" for outstanding postseason play
[CLOSER] Georg Philip Telemann - he could keep throwing and throwing and throwing forever

Bench
[CATCHER] Max Reger - skilled at working with the more dour Germanics in the pitching staff
[FIRST BASE/OUTFIELD] G. F. Handel - he'd still be starting if it weren't for his weight problem
[MIDDLE INFIELD] George Gershwin - platoons with Brahms, batting against elitist teams, whom he baffles
[OUTFIELD] Antonio Vivaldi - the Red-Headed Menace produces big hits in a pinch
[OUTFIELD] Claude Debussy - easily distracted by clouds or playing by the sea
[UTILITY] Edward Elgar - used as a defensive replacement in losing battles**

Coach/Manager: Johann Sebastian Bach
Retired Player: Jean Sibelius. Quit before the eighth game of the season.
Sent to Minor Leagues: Hector Berlioz. Off-the-field issues - missed games while pining for some girl or another.
Suspended for Using Artificial Performance-Enhancing Substances: Mykola Ovsianiko-Kulikovsky

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*N.B. Peregrinus Expectati is, in fact, actually gibberish

**N.B. This is a joke about Victorian England, NOT about Elgar's compositional talent


;D :D  I really enjoyed that Brian!  Very funny!  :)

ChamberNut

Quote from: Brian on July 02, 2009, 03:43:22 PM
The Composer All-Star Baseball Team - scouting report

Lineup:
[2B] Edvard Grieg - his miniatures almost all go for singles, but they make him a consistent threat to reach base
[CF] Antonin Dvořák - a smallball player extraordinaire, his chamber game is a major boost
[3B] Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - a true hit machine
[LF] Ludwig van Beethoven - the ideal cleanup hitter, because he sweeps the board
[1B] Gustav Mahler - his at-bats are usually either monster home runs or strikeouts
[RF] Maurice Ravel - he can orchestrate a rally like no other guy on the team
[SS] Johannes Brahms - dashing young slugger has mellowed with age
[C] Sergei Prokofiev - a clubhouse favorite, his nickname is "The Expecting Peregrine"*

Pitching Rotation:
[SP] Franz Schubert - don't let the boyish looks and glasses fool you. His mind is a steel trap and his fastball hits 960, er, 96
[SP] Dmitri Shostakovich - he can pitch in any genre, and gets even better under pressure
[SP] Richard Wagner - the workhouse has what it takes to pitch four hours every night for a week
[SP] Franz Liszt - all power and no control, Liszt can throw 101 but who knows where it'll go
[SP] Anton Bruckner - he can hardly throw over 70 mph, but will still outlast any foe

Relief Corps:
[RP] John Dowland - the lute-handed specialist or LOOGY
[RP] Johann Strauss jr - in case the situation is getting too serious
[RP] Steve Reich - he has just one pitch that he throws in a thousand different ways
[RP] Igor Stravinsky - dubbed the "Rite of October" for outstanding postseason play
[CLOSER] Georg Philip Telemann - he could keep throwing and throwing and throwing forever

Bench
[CATCHER] Max Reger - skilled at working with the more dour Germanics in the pitching staff
[FIRST BASE/OUTFIELD] G. F. Handel - he'd still be starting if it weren't for his weight problem
[MIDDLE INFIELD] George Gershwin - platoons with Brahms, batting against elitist teams, whom he baffles
[OUTFIELD] Antonio Vivaldi - the Red-Headed Menace produces big hits in a pinch
[OUTFIELD] Claude Debussy - easily distracted by clouds or playing by the sea
[UTILITY] Edward Elgar - used as a defensive replacement in losing battles**

Coach/Manager: Johann Sebastian Bach
Retired Player: Jean Sibelius. Quit before the eighth game of the season.
Sent to Minor Leagues: Hector Berlioz. Off-the-field issues - missed games while pining for some girl or another.
Suspended for Using Artificial Performance-Enhancing Substances: Mykola Ovsianiko-Kulikovsky

----------
*N.B. Peregrinus Expectati is, in fact, actually gibberish

**N.B. This is a joke about Victorian England, NOT about Elgar's compositional talent


Honorable retiree mention:  Robert Schumann -A force on the field, but forced out of the league for going crazy in a "pine tar incident" and for cold cocking his team mate Brahms (unsure for reason of outburst).

Brian

Quote from: ChamberNut on July 02, 2009, 04:20:04 PMcold cocking his team mate Brahms (unsure for reason of outburst).
;D

The dude in your avatar was lucky, though. Originally I had Villa Lobos at shortstop after Wagner demanded that Brahms be traded  :o

Bogey

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

eyeresist

Never mind the baseball, who would you rather have over for a drink?

Dvorak - you'd have a few chuckles, he might play you his latest tune, and he'd go home before one.
vs.
Mahler - you'd hardly get a word in edgeways as he went on and on about his miserable life and "cosmic vibrations". You'd be lucky to get to bed before sunrise, and when you got up, there he'd be snoring on your sofa.


Or Brahms vs. Beethoven: Brahms might be a bit of a bore, but at least he won't suddenly punch you in the face.

DavidRoss

"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

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Florestan

Quote from: marvinbrown on July 02, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
 You?? I was the one that linked them together on the Mahler is a Gasbag thread $:)!!

  http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,13314.40.html
 marvin

Fair enough! I'll give you fifty per cent of royalties together with my apologies!  0:)
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