What - no thread about how the moon landings were faked?

[Ten thumbs]

Some of us here in England know that Columbus's discovery of America was faked. The New World doesn't really exist and the USA is a myth created to maintain the balance of power between Europe, the Russians and the Chinese.

[MishaK]

(We can then do a mathematical calculation on the power that would be required for such a system. It's sheer nonsense).

Please do! I would like to see your work!

[drogulus]

drogulus, the media are commercial enterprises- meaning the customer's desires come first. Nothing else matters, not truth or fairness or any such high-minded notions.

     No, it isn't like that. People who work in the news business are motivated like other people, to do a good job. You have to dehumanize everyone, not just the dishonest minority, in order to believe that everyone lies all the time. Your psychology is bad, and the world would fall apart in a matter of hours if everyone was a fake. This is so obvious that it prevents most people from buying the global conspiracy thesis. Not only would the world fall apart, all the honest people would somehow be prevented from seeing that planes don't fly, power companies don't deliver electricity, wars aren't being fought and the people who are supposed to die in the planes that don't fly would have to be housed in camps run by other people who have to be deceived about their purpose. So everyone would have to be in on the conspiracy to deceive themselves! The problem is that this is too much work, and how would you ever find a population high-minded enough to run such a scam on themselves without violating the Non Disclosure Agreement they all signed?

[Gurn Blanston]

     No, it isn't like that. People who work in the news business are motivated like other people, to do a good job. You have to dehumanize everyone, not just the dishonest minority, in order to believe that everyone lies all the time. Your psychology is bad, and the world would fall apart in a matter of hours if everyone was a fake. This is so obvious that it prevents most people from buying the global conspiracy thesis. Not only would the world fall apart, all the honest people would somehow be prevented from seeing that planes don't fly, power companies don't deliver electricity, wars aren't being fought and the people who are supposed to die in the planes that don't fly would have to be housed in camps run by other people who have to be deceived about their purpose. So everyone would have to be in on the conspiracy to deceive themselves! The problem is that this is too much work, and how would you ever find a population high-minded enough to run such a scam on themselves without violating the Non Disclosure Agreement they all signed?

Sounds kinda like The Matrix...



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[Joe Barron]

Well, I guess they could have sucked the air out of the studio ...

But if you maintain that, you have to give up the argument that the US flag is "flapping" in some kind of breeze.

[Brian]

Some of us here in England know that Columbus's discovery of America was faked. The New World doesn't really exist and the USA is a myth created to maintain the balance of power between Europe, the Russians and the Chinese.

Actually, a few years ago I stumbled on a webpage that claimed that Idaho didn't exist and was part of a conspiracy by cartographers.

The proof: "Have you ever met somebody from Idaho? We didn't think so!"

[DavidW]

Actually, a few years ago I stumbled on a webpage that claimed that Idaho didn't exist and was part of a conspiracy by cartographers.

The proof: "Have you ever met somebody from Idaho? We didn't think so!"

Have you actually seen a sunrise?  Do you remember the last time you've even seen the sun?  Not just a distance memory, but like yesterday or last week?

[Gurn Blanston]

Actually, a few years ago I stumbled on a webpage that claimed that Idaho didn't exist and was part of a conspiracy by cartographers.

The proof: "Have you ever met somebody from Idaho? We didn't think so!"

I saw convincing evidence of the same thing about Belgium! Has ME believin' it...



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[Gurn Blanston]

Here you go. Argue with THAT! 

http://zapatopi.net/belgium/



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[Brian]

Here you go. Argue with THAT! 

http://zapatopi.net/belgium/

I have a sudden urge to buy one of their T-shirts.

[Gurn Blanston]

I have a sudden urge to buy one of their T-shirts.

Well, they're NOT made in 'Belgium"...



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[drogulus]

Sounds kinda like The Matrix...



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     The Matrix was supposed to be a documentary, but I know the truth! That's just the outer shell of the real conspiracy.

      OK, I'm out of gas.....how do you parody a parody? I guess you can't really do much better than Thomas Pynchon in The Crying of Lot 49 and Gravity's Rainbow. Now, if only I can find one of those W.A.S.T.E.* baskets, that would be the proof I need.

    _{* We Await Silent Tristero's Empire}

[Brian]

how do you parody a parody?

Not too hard...

[karlhenning]

The proof: "Have you ever met somebody from Idaho? We didn't think so!"

I knew something was up when Napoleon Dynamite was supposedly set in "Idaho"!

[greg]

Yup, you watch these films of the moon landings being faked in a studio and you think to yourself, 'wait, I could be this guy'. You are so right !

Greg IS a conspiracy theory ! He genuinely can't see what is in front of his nose !!  And it's amazing. What shall we show him next ?

Ah, yes !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TWiJQhaajA&feature=related

and also -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUOItuKm5UE&feature=related

Thanks for that- anyone what Penderecki piece is that, btw at :50 in the first video? He recycles the same themes so many times that it's hard to tell.

[eyeresist]

That the FACT of the Holocaust has been swept under the carpet by Catholic Poland and by the wider world because it exposes, or tends to expose, the evils of our society and the lengths to which men in high places can live in denial of it.

Oh wow, so there is an alternate world where only a few conspiracy nuts believe the Nazis exterminated millions of "inferior" humans? My head hurts.

My column this week will be on the moon landing's 40th anniversary. Will post a link when it's printed.

I remember when I was a kid seeing a sci-fi movie called "Journey to the Far Side of the Sun."

Produced by the great Gerry Anderson IIRC, whose Space 1999 series would give a headache to any physicist or astronomer.

Since you like explaining science stuff, could you explain to me how our seasons are attributable to the pitched axis of the Earth, and not to its elliptical orbit around the sun?

(Or are the seasons a conspiracy to make us buy more clothes?)

[Joe_Campbell]

Joe Campbell,

This film comes from NASA. Where else do you think it comes from ?  It comes from a time when these events were being set up. Rehearsed.

Answers on a postcard please ?

LOL

Does THIS help, perhaps ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTMAhOvXgsg

Wrong. These are recently taken photographs, so long after the fact that there's no way they are linked to your imaginary conspiracy. You failed. Again. Are you sure you aren't Dan Brown? Oh wait. He actually published a book.

Very appropriate music for the video link you posted: Crystal Method - Busy Child. You somehow managed to summarize all of your feeble efforts and their possible catalyst AND the bogus "proof" video in one link! Kudos!

[Herman]

Brian,

I know it's real hard for you. But this thread is about the faked moon landings. So, stop adding fluoride to your tea/coffee and think of opening a thread on 'Shakespeare'. Because this one is about....................the faked moon landings. OK ?

Have we gone too fast for you Brian ??

What's so funny is this was a spoof topic, opened by someone who wanted to poke fun of conspiracy theorists, and now mr Newman is acting as if he's the moderator of this topic, urging people to stay on topic and take it seriously. Including the use of the authoritative "we".

[Hollywood]

Wow! It looks like this has turned into the "Rob Newman Show" which is actually a rerun that I have seen on other classical music forums. Eventually, on those other forums, the "Rob Newman Show" was canceled. I wonder how long it will be before they pull the plug on the RNS here...

[Florestan]

Please do! I would like to see your work!

Second that.  The physics that I studied at university (Oxford, class of '76) included a great deal of thermodynamics (more than I would have wished, to be perfectly honest) and many of my textbooks are on the shelves behind me now.  I would be more than happy for you to take me through any calculations in support of your arguments.

Thirded. I am very interested in seeing the mathematics and physics that support your hypothesis.