Worst Music Poll

Started by Dr. Dread, August 24, 2009, 05:53:16 AM

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What is the worst genre of music?

New Age
5 (15.2%)
Smooth Jazz
3 (9.1%)
Country Pop
8 (24.2%)
Polka
4 (12.1%)
Other
13 (39.4%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Dr. Dread

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 25, 2009, 05:55:38 AM
I do. If it had been on the poll I would have had no hesitation pulling the trigger  ;D  In fact, though, I admit I am a narrow-minded asshole in this case. I believed in my youth (and still do, I suppose) that rock musicians should not have delusions of grandeur. Prog rock seems pretentious to me. Rock should be basic, loud rebel stuff, short and to the point. When I  want pretentious grandeur, I listen to Wagner  ;D

Sarge

Yes, that right there is the argument in a nutshell.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 25, 2009, 05:30:24 AM
Antipathy to the polka puzzleth me mightily, Sarge.

I grew up in northeastern Ohio, of German descent. Polka is in my blood  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

karlhenning

Antipathy to the accordion, one can understand. But . . . to the polka?

karlhenning

Quote from: MN Dave on August 25, 2009, 05:57:01 AM
Yes, that right there is the argument in a nutshell.

You modify the poll, buster, and I am out of this thread.

(Of course, that may be as you wish.)

— And, of course, the 8 people who voted for "Other" probably had prog rock in mind  8)

. . . or Tom Jones.

ChamberNut

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 25, 2009, 05:59:49 AM
Antipathy to the accordion, one can understand. But . . . to the polka?

Why antipathy to the accordion?  How come there aren't any Accordion quintets by composers?  ;D

Dr. Dread

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 25, 2009, 06:03:06 AM
You modify the poll, buster, and I am out of this thread.

(Of course, that may be as you wish.)

— And, of course, the 8 people who voted for "Other" probably had prog rock in mind  8)

. . . or Tom Jones.

I ain't modifyin' squat.  8)

Sergeant Rock

#66
Quote from: ChamberNut on August 25, 2009, 06:45:16 AM
Why antipathy to the accordion?  How come there aren't any Accordion quintets by composers?  ;D

Actually, Astor Piazzolla wrote many...at least he wrote much music for his five piece ensemble (he played the bandoneon, which is a type of accordion).



Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

karlhenning

Delighted that Sarge got there first!

Piazzolla did point out, though, that the fingering for the bandoneón must have been designed by the Devil.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 25, 2009, 07:32:54 AM
Delighted that Sarge got there first!

Piazzolla did point out, though, that the fingering for the bandoneón must have been designed by the Devil.

I hadn't heard that. I don't play either instrument but I'm amazed people do. Looks very complicated.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

karlhenning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 25, 2009, 07:37:52 AM
I hadn't heard that. I don't play either instrument but I'm amazed people do. Looks very complicated.

Sarge

There seems to be no easy pattern to the arrangement of notes or chords (which are governed by buttons rather than a keyboard), so you've just got to learn where they are . . . and your fingers have to know, stone-cold, where to go.  That Piazzolla could be so inventive, creative and lyrical with such an instrument . . . my hat is off to him!

Elgarian

#70
Quote from: 71 dB on August 25, 2009, 02:37:15 AM
Elgarian might like this (Shenandoah by Eric Tingstad & Nancy Rumbel).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNhYWRMNddU

Well, I'm very picky about this stuff. The essential requirement for me is that, like wallpaper, it should create an atmosphere without being intrusive, but of course what's non-intrusive for one person may be intrusive for another. So for me, there's too much going on here in this sample - a too-prominent bass line, a clearcut tune (that I don't much like), and so on.

But just to demonstrate how inconsistent one can be in this area, I remember how the sound of Medwyn Goodall's Medicine Woman virtually defined what it was like to potter about among the streets of Glastonbury in the mid 1990s. Music like this wafted down the wind from all quarters. And very nice too - if you like that sort of quasi-meditative spirituality, as I tend to.

See what you think 71dB - but you'll probably hate it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apdGYCWatM8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZZ8LnQemk

Todd

Since there is no 'banana' option, I must choose Other.  Of the options listed, some polkas can be nice (and the dancing can be cool as the earlier photo shows), while the other choices aren't even music.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

snyprrr

Four pages of this thread have whipped me into a blind, furious rage.

A) New Age: yes, I "studied" this in the '90s...Steve Halperin...crystals...Steve Roach...Eno/Budd...shakahachu...American Indian...oh, it just goes on and on...reach the book New Sounds... no, this stuff suxxx beyond anyone's wildest dreams...you might as well listen to John Cage and at least feel like an elite....argh...JUST OPEN THE WINDOW!!! and listen to the sounds afforded you...oh boy, if one more cd tells me that the tones are calibrated to my chakra zones and blah blah...it's amazing to me (and very telling) when drones need to be appended with some kind of religio-spiritual mumbo jumbo...and hey, I'm actually interested in that kind of stuff, but, hey, I've found that Feldman works just as well...yes, Feldman SOUNDS just like NewAge to me...what's the diff?, except that Feldman doesn't try to shuck my dollars with some kind of PBS/Yanni-type extra-marital spiritual pffft.

Puh-leeeze...I once got so into cymbals that I bought seven of them...including earth clangs, triangles, and all manner of cool/spiritual sounding percussion instruments to help me acheive the opening of the vortex which I am sure was coming from behind the bookshelf.

Argh...not much gets me as pissed of as NewAge American Indian Hindu guru flutes made out of the bones of our forefathers...argh...the devil truly has all the good tunes...

B) rap...obviously they just do this to get on your nerves. Don't worry, 2012 is coming! This stuff does make me want to be able to shoot lasers out of my eyes, though! Death to the corporate music industry (if that includes stuff I like, so be it...I don't need electricity to enjoy music)

C) country pop...ditto... music to destroy self will...you know what happens when you play country music backwards, don't you?...you get your wife back, your dog comes back, you get hired, etc...

D)how bout ClassicalEra music???...that super annoying B-C,B-C,B-C dominant, or whatever they call it, that "thing" that everyone from Haydn to LvB did...NO MATTER WHAT, they ALL did it...B-C...I hope you know what I'm talking about, that "ending" they all do

ARRRGH...I'm throwing furniture.. :( >:( >:D :'( :-\ :-X :-[ :P :o >:( ::) ??? :'(

E) DON'T TOUCH MY YODEL!!!

F) Smooth Jazz??? ???...Kenny G???...AAAARRRRGH...Dave what's-his-name????Koz?Sanborn?...AAARGH...it's a Zionist conspiracy

G) music influenced by strict Schoenbergianism...CRI, NewWorld,Nonesuch...AAAARGH...

ALL bad forms of music were invented by the secret police in order to bend the public to the will of the state.

AAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!

H) "Mellowest Classical Album Ever"

I) "Beethoven for Dummies"

J) I looove disco!!! At least it knows it sucks, and just exists to put a smile on your face (for good or ill)...ABBA ROCKS!!!

K) again on the country/rock...the most cynical...oh no, I feel unacceptable words forming in my mouth...

OH THE HATE...why do so many musicians define themselves not by what they like, but what they hate? is it because we feel that music is sacred and people are taking this sacred thing and turning it into commerce...yes, blame the mercantilists...oh, it really feels good to hate this stuff...

There is no furniture left. I'm in a corner of the room, whimpering...have you really won?...woo, hoo :'(, have you really won???

L) "Things I would like to say to Philip Glass"

Just bought more furniture.

M) Bad music is either the fault of a) drugs, b) greed.

N) Menuets and waltzes suck too, you know!



Snyprrr collapses from hyperventil .................ack...................beep...  beep.................................................................

karlhenning

Buying seven cymbals isn't for everybody, of course;  but it isn't a new age thing, necessarily.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: snyprrr on August 25, 2009, 10:09:53 AM
Four pages of this thread have whipped me into a blind, furious rage.

A) New Age: yes, I "studied" this in the '90s...Steve Halperin...crystals...Steve Roach...Eno/Budd...shakahachu...American Indian...oh, it just goes on and on...reach the book New Sounds... no, this stuff suxxx beyond anyone's wildest dreams...you might as well listen to John Cage and at least feel like an elite....argh...JUST OPEN THE WINDOW!!! and listen to the sounds afforded you...oh boy, if one more cd tells me that the tones are calibrated to my chakra zones and blah blah...it's amazing to me (and very telling) when drones need to be appended with some kind of religio-spiritual mumbo jumbo...and hey, I'm actually interested in that kind of stuff, but, hey, I've found that Feldman works just as well...yes, Feldman SOUNDS just like NewAge to me...what's the diff?, except that Feldman doesn't try to shuck my dollars with some kind of PBS/Yanni-type extra-marital spiritual pffft.

Puh-leeeze...I once got so into cymbals that I bought seven of them...including earth clangs, triangles, and all manner of cool/spiritual sounding percussion instruments to help me acheive the opening of the vortex which I am sure was coming from behind the bookshelf.

Argh...not much gets me as pissed of as NewAge American Indian Hindu guru flutes made out of the bones of our forefathers...argh...the devil truly has all the good tunes...

B) rap...obviously they just do this to get on your nerves. Don't worry, 2012 is coming! This stuff does make me want to be able to shoot lasers out of my eyes, though! Death to the corporate music industry (if that includes stuff I like, so be it...I don't need electricity to enjoy music)

C) country pop...ditto... music to destroy self will...you know what happens when you play country music backwards, don't you?...you get your wife back, your dog comes back, you get hired, etc...

D)how bout ClassicalEra music???...that super annoying B-C,B-C,B-C dominant, or whatever they call it, that "thing" that everyone from Haydn to LvB did...NO MATTER WHAT, they ALL did it...B-C...I hope you know what I'm talking about, that "ending" they all do

ARRRGH...I'm throwing furniture.. :( >:( >:D :'( :-\ :-X :-[ :P :o >:( ::) ??? :'(

E) DON'T TOUCH MY YODEL!!!

F) Smooth Jazz??? ???...Kenny G???...AAAARRRRGH...Dave what's-his-name????Koz?Sanborn?...AAARGH...it's a Zionist conspiracy

G) music influenced by strict Schoenbergianism...CRI, NewWorld,Nonesuch...AAAARGH...

ALL bad forms of music were invented by the secret police in order to bend the public to the will of the state.

AAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!

H) "Mellowest Classical Album Ever"

I) "Beethoven for Dummies"

J) I looove disco!!! At least it knows it sucks, and just exists to put a smile on your face (for good or ill)...ABBA ROCKS!!!

K) again on the country/rock...the most cynical...oh no, I feel unacceptable words forming in my mouth...

OH THE HATE...why do so many musicians define themselves not by what they like, but what they hate? is it because we feel that music is sacred and people are taking this sacred thing and turning it into commerce...yes, blame the mercantilists...oh, it really feels good to hate this stuff...

There is no furniture left. I'm in a corner of the room, whimpering...have you really won?...woo, hoo :'(, have you really won???

L) "Things I would like to say to Philip Glass"

Just bought more furniture.

M) Bad music is either the fault of a) drugs, b) greed.

N) Menuets and waltzes suck too, you know!



Snyprrr collapses from hyperventil .................ack...................beep...  beep.................................................................

And now we get to enjoy the other side of your bipolar syndrome  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Florestan

Quote from: snyprrr on August 25, 2009, 10:09:53 AM
Four pages of this thread have whipped me into a blind, furious rage.

etc, etc, etc

Your have gained yourself a wide and well-established reputation for your almost deliriously rambling posts... but now you're clearly abusing it!  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Szykneij

Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

Don't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel Paige

KevinP

Quote from: snyprrr on August 25, 2009, 10:09:53 AM

F) Smooth Jazz??? ???...Kenny G???...AAAARRRRGH...Dave what's-his-name????Koz?Sanborn?...AAARGH...it's a Zionist conspiracy


I would hesitate to put David Sanborn in the smooth jazz category. He's certainly oriented more towards pop than anything resembling swing, but he's got a very edgy, New York tone that is at odds with the word 'smooth.'

Either way, he's not my cup of tea and I'm in no way defending him. I have heard some jazz heads say he actually can play, just not on that pop-oriented stuff he's associated with. I'm prepared to take their word for it rather than test it out for myself.

greg

Quote from: snyprrr on August 25, 2009, 10:09:53 AM
Four pages of this thread have whipped me into a blind, furious rage.

A) New Age: yes, I "studied" this in the '90s...Steve Halperin...crystals...Steve Roach...Eno/Budd...shakahachu...American Indian...oh, it just goes on and on...reach the book New Sounds... no, this stuff suxxx beyond anyone's wildest dreams...you might as well listen to John Cage and at least feel like an elite....argh...JUST OPEN THE WINDOW!!! and listen to the sounds afforded you...oh boy, if one more cd tells me that the tones are calibrated to my chakra zones and blah blah...it's amazing to me (and very telling) when drones need to be appended with some kind of religio-spiritual mumbo jumbo...and hey, I'm actually interested in that kind of stuff, but, hey, I've found that Feldman works just as well...yes, Feldman SOUNDS just like NewAge to me...what's the diff?, except that Feldman doesn't try to shuck my dollars with some kind of PBS/Yanni-type extra-marital spiritual pffft.

Puh-leeeze...I once got so into cymbals that I bought seven of them...including earth clangs, triangles, and all manner of cool/spiritual sounding percussion instruments to help me acheive the opening of the vortex which I am sure was coming from behind the bookshelf.

Argh...not much gets me as pissed of as NewAge American Indian Hindu guru flutes made out of the bones of our forefathers...argh...the devil truly has all the good tunes...

B) rap...obviously they just do this to get on your nerves. Don't worry, 2012 is coming! This stuff does make me want to be able to shoot lasers out of my eyes, though! Death to the corporate music industry (if that includes stuff I like, so be it...I don't need electricity to enjoy music)

C) country pop...ditto... music to destroy self will...you know what happens when you play country music backwards, don't you?...you get your wife back, your dog comes back, you get hired, etc...

D)how bout ClassicalEra music???...that super annoying B-C,B-C,B-C dominant, or whatever they call it, that "thing" that everyone from Haydn to LvB did...NO MATTER WHAT, they ALL did it...B-C...I hope you know what I'm talking about, that "ending" they all do

ARRRGH...I'm throwing furniture.. :( >:( >:D :'( :-\ :-X :-[ :P :o >:( ::) ??? :'(

E) DON'T TOUCH MY YODEL!!!

F) Smooth Jazz??? ???...Kenny G???...AAAARRRRGH...Dave what's-his-name????Koz?Sanborn?...AAARGH...it's a Zionist conspiracy

G) music influenced by strict Schoenbergianism...CRI, NewWorld,Nonesuch...AAAARGH...

ALL bad forms of music were invented by the secret police in order to bend the public to the will of the state.

AAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!

H) "Mellowest Classical Album Ever"

I) "Beethoven for Dummies"

J) I looove disco!!! At least it knows it sucks, and just exists to put a smile on your face (for good or ill)...ABBA ROCKS!!!

K) again on the country/rock...the most cynical...oh no, I feel unacceptable words forming in my mouth...

OH THE HATE...why do so many musicians define themselves not by what they like, but what they hate? is it because we feel that music is sacred and people are taking this sacred thing and turning it into commerce...yes, blame the mercantilists...oh, it really feels good to hate this stuff...

There is no furniture left. I'm in a corner of the room, whimpering...have you really won?...woo, hoo :'(, have you really won???

L) "Things I would like to say to Philip Glass"

Just bought more furniture.

M) Bad music is either the fault of a) drugs, b) greed.

N) Menuets and waltzes suck too, you know!



Snyprrr collapses from hyperventil .................ack...................beep...  beep.................................................................
Just saw this.
I bow in your presence, sir. That is truly insane in a very enjoyable, funny way.

CD

Emotronica.

Think typical annoying off-key pop-punk vocals backed by warmed over "totally retro! omg I love the 80s!" synths and drum machines, all played all at the same ear-splitting volume.

Or Country-Rap ("C'rap" for short). I haven't actually heard this, but I can just imagine.