9/11 (and other) mysteries

[head-case]

Right, I forgot that aspect of this.  Quite aside from the laughable "science" of the 9-11 conspiracy theorists, there's also the fact that the conspiracy would have to have been concocted by the same imbeciles and incompetents behind the debacle of the Iraq war.

And the brilliant response to Hurricane Katrina.

[MishaK]

Right, I forgot that aspect of this.  Quite aside from the laughable "science" of the 9-11 conspiracy theorists, there's also the fact that the conspiracy would have to have been concocted by the same imbeciles and incompetents behind the debacle of the Iraq war.

Read the second link in my response above (Reply No.4). You'll find it very amusing.

[Shrunk]

Read the second link in my response above (Reply No.4). You'll find it very amusing.

Amusing, and bang on target.  I remember seeing an interview with one of the dolts from the Loose Change group.  He was asked how he would explain the disappearance of the hundreds of passengers and crew from the four airliners.  His reply was something like, "I don't have to answer that question.  It's the other side that has to answer questions."  Uhh, right.

As Taibbi implies at the end, these guys are to the left what creationists are to the right.  In both cases, the best defense is to ask them to not just point out areas of uncertainty in the accepted theories, but to actually put forward a coherent hypothesis themselves.  That they never do suggests that they actually realize how absurd their versions are.

[BachQ]

Mench, I really do feel your excellent points are falling on, not merely deaf ears, but blocked ears.

Query whether a totally deaf individual can achieve any further benefit by "blocking" his already complete deafness .......

[Guido]

Query whether a totally deaf individual can achieve any further benefit by "blocking" his already complete deafness .......

Brilliant, just brilliant. Thanks for ressurecting this thread after 7 months, and making such an incisive and brilliant comment. Can someone get this guy a medal?

[drogulus]

    Just when you think you've seen everything, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists come along to restore your faith in human idiocy. It's a perfect storm of malice and paranoia. The lesson is that you can always find the hidden malefactors among the people you already hate. Bush.....Jews....CIA......Skull % Bones.....TrilateralMossadVaticanMasons....(Didn't Pynchon write a book about this stuff? Something about the Tristero?? I thought it was fiction....)

[Brian]

Brilliant, just brilliant. Thanks for ressurecting this thread after 7 months, and making such an incisive and brilliant comment. Can someone get this guy a medal?

Recently, D minor's been doing nothing but resurrecting dead old threads with stupid remarks, none of which naturally have nothing to do with the original subject and most of which involve insulting somebody. I don't know what the hell he does - maybe he just goes to page 50 of each forum, clicks a random thread, and posts something stupid in it. But I agree that it's getting really boring to click on something and discover that it's not actually a discussion but D minor congratulating himself on being a smarty-pants.

[Sean]

I think Dm just likes anything a bit controversial or entertaining. It's unlikely he's any more bored a waif than anyone else.

[Brian]

I think Dm just likes anything a bit controversial or entertaining. It's unlikely he's any more bored a waif than anyone else.

That's indeed awful kind of you. Maybe Dm should get outside more. 

[bwv 1080]

I think the ultimate reassuring myth of conspiracy mongers is that someone is in control.  It is too disturbing for them to believe that events like 9/11 can happen as a result of a chain of random events.  Blaming the "devil" is the easier route of these superstitious peasants. The unspoken utopian correllary is a that potentially the forces of good could in theory likewise control the world, if it were not for "them".  It is a warped species of the narrative fallacy that people fall for in looking at history - where a narrative is spun around a series of events (like the rise of Hitler) that makes it seem totally foreseable ex ante (which of course it was not).  Of course the same fallacy applies to pundits who look back at the real history of 9/11 and delude themselves to believe that it was somehow predictable - that Clinton, or Bush or whoever could have foreseen that the chain of events that did lead to 9/11 and somehow put the pieces together and prevent the tragedy.

[Sean]

I'm constantly amazed and dismayed at this. The evidence for 9/11 being carried out internally is very extensive and very persuasive. The fact that you just take on board the official view and the media, which offers virtually no analysis, no evidence and even no common sense, I have to say says something drastic about your mind and its abilities. Many of these other theories are not crazy. And 9/11 wasn't random- somebody did plan it.

[M forever]

Sean - which foreign languages do you speak or at least understand to a certain degree?

[Sean]

Foreign languages? I spent a few months learning French. Also joined a course for Spanish but didn't get so far.

[M forever]

That's it?

[Sean]

That's it. I take an interest in English idioms and vocabulary. I know you speak German or Russian or Japanese or something.

[Lethevich]

And 9/11 wasn't random- somebody did plan it.

Yes: OSAMA BIN LADEN.

[MishaK]

The evidence for 9/11 being carried out internally is very extensive and very persuasive.

"Extensive" in the sense that those who are fecally plenary continue to produce additional merde. "Persuasive" only to those without the slightest understanding of logic and causality. I again urge you to peruse the links I provided earlier in this thread. But I suspect you won't. It's too comforting to think yourself intellectually superior by rejecting what you would like to perceive as an "official" version that some higher power is trying to "impose" on your free-thinking self. Any acceptance of even part of this "official" version would make you feel ordinary and meaningless.

[M forever]

That's it. I take an interest in English idioms and vocabulary. I know you speak German or Russian or Japanese or something.

That's it? You don't speak any other major European languages and no Asian language at all but you pontificate about Western and Eastern philosophy and mentality, yet you have no access to studying any other people's culture and mentality. You are even more provincial and stupid than I thought.
There is nothing wrong in general BTW with not knowing foreign languages if you don't need them for practical reasons or intellectual interests - although it certainly is very enrichening to know at least a few at least a little -, but someone like you who holds grandiose lectures about the culture and mentality of "the West" and "the East" without even understanding what most of these people say in their own words, that is just totally ridiculous.

[karlhenning]

Does Sean get his musicology from al Jazeera, too?

[M forever]

  Could be. They make great music videos. Those propaganda videos they make which show people training in guerilla camps overlaid with loud wailing music would be really funny if the whole subject wasn't so serious and there wasn't so much suffering caused by it.

"Extensive" in the sense that those who are fecally plenary continue to produce additional merde. "Persuasive" only to those without the slightest understanding of logic and causality. I again urge you to peruse the links I provided earlier in this thread. But I suspect you won't. It's too comforting to think yourself intellectually superior by rejecting what you would like to perceive as an "official" version that some higher power is trying to "impose" on your free-thinking self. Any acceptance of even part of this "official" version would make you feel ordinary and meaningless.

Very true. Some people need the imaginary enemy, and the more powerful he is, the better they feel about "opposing" him. That's sooooo courageous. And so convenient because that sinister and powerful enemy won't come after them.