Should America get rid of Columbus Day?

[MN Dave]

And just I post that, you change it.

Huh? Wah?

[Todd]

A) Out of respect for the Aboriginal/First Nations people of America.

What does this have to do with anything?  Following a similar line of reasoning, why not abolish Christmas as well, out of respect for Hindus, Muslims, Jews, etc, etc.  Or perhaps Halloween out of respect for uptight Christians.  Or Veteran's Day and Memorial Day out of respect for non-veterans.  Or Labor Day out of respect for the unemployed and layabout billionaires.

[karlhenning]

Sorry, but, screw them.

Ah, the socially-challenged suuuper geeenius is heard from!

[karlhenning]

I voted No.

[Bulldog]

Sorry, but, screw them. Considering what Europeans accomplished in the new world compared to the people that already lived there i can't understand why everybody keeps mourning the passing of what was but a bunch of savages.

The way I see it, you and your European pals are the savages.  I voted yes. 

[Harpo]

Exactly. Start getting rid of Columbus Day by not celebrating it yourself. And that goes for all the other holidays too. Except the days I get off from work and my birthday.

"Not to change the subject" but I notice from your avatar that...THE BOB DYLAN CHRISTMAS ALBUM IS FINALLY HERE! I listened to a few samples on Amazon--he sounds like Tom Waits.

[MN Dave]

"Not to change the subject" but I notice from your avatar that...THE BOB DYLAN CHRISTMAS ALBUM IS FINALLY HERE! I listened to a few samples on Amazon--he sounds like Tom Waits.

Yeah, his voice is shot, but I still love him.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

The way I see it, you and your European pals are the savages.  I voted yes. 

Me, too! (on both counts).

[Tapio Dmitriyevich]

No, America should not get rid of it.

What does this have to do with anything?  Following a similar line of reasoning, why not abolish Christmas as well, out of respect for Hindus, Muslims, Jews, etc, etc.  Or perhaps Halloween out of respect for uptight Christians.  Or Veteran's Day and Memorial Day out of respect for non-veterans.  Or Labor Day out of respect for the unemployed and layabout billionaires.

Yep. What will be left? A polished one-world, a lowest common denominator world, the European idea. Just yesterday I read Nietzsche/Zarathustra, "The Tarantulas", which applies here.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Two reasons:

A) Out of respect for the Aboriginal/First Nations people of America.

Who cares? If they are so great then they wouldn't have had their land taken away from them. I know it sucks but the fact is the strong will conquer the weak, end of story.

[Josquin des Prez]

The way I see it, you and your European pals are the savages.   

You are more then welcome to leave our civilization if it bothers you so much. Liberals seem so eager to attack Europeans and European history every chance they get yet they have no qualms enjoying the freedom and comforts produced by European culture. I'd call that hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

[Josquin des Prez]

Ah, the socially-challenged suuuper geeenius is heard from!

I'm just using various forms of shock therapy to help people get a better grip on reality. Feeling sorry and teary eyed about the poor Indians when we all know the outcome would have been exactly the same had the roles been reversed is already silly enough as it is. When taking into account that we are talking about events that occurred hundreds of years ago its down right ridicolous.

[The Six]

Josquin, 200 years from now, on the Holocaust: Come on, the Jews walked right into those gas chambers! They would have done the same to the Germans if the roles were reversed! It was hundreds of years ago.

[Josquin des Prez]

Josquin, 200 years from now, on the Holocaust: Come on, the Jews walked right into those gas chambers!

The point of the matter of course is that there isn't a single nation or civilization that hasn't committed atrocities at one point or another during the course of its history, but we still measure those nations and civilizations but their accomplishments, not by their crimes. Unless those nations and civilizations happen to be of European origin.

They would have done the same to the Germans if the roles were reversed!

You don't think so? You don't think Jews haven't proved to have genocidal tendencies in the recent past? 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

Did you know in fact that much of the motivation of cleansing Germany of Jews was fueled by the aftermath of the Jewish-led Bolshevik revolution and Hitler's own fears Germany was going to be next in line? I think an holocaust of the German people at the hands of Jewish communist leaders is a very plausible scenario. Human nature spares no one. Sorry if that comes as a disappointment to you.

[karlhenning]

Since the US is sometimes criticized for telling other people what they ought to do . . . should people outside the US be telling America to get rid of Columbus Day?  0:)

[The Six]

Sorry if that comes as a disappointment to you.

Why should I be disappointed? I just predicted your response with complete accuracy. Except...

The point of the matter of course is that there isn't a single nation or civilization that hasn't committed atrocities at one point or another during the course of its history,

I'm not sure what atrocity the Native Americans committed, or any aboriginal people, but I'm sure you'll have some article ready for that.

an holocaust

OK, now you've lost all credibility.

[karlhenning]

OK, now you've lost all credibility.

What, only now?

[ChamberNut]

Since the US is sometimes criticized for telling other people what they ought to do . . . should people outside the US be telling America to get rid of Columbus Day?  0:)

Stay away from our seal clubbling club!  0:)

[karlhenning]

Nice red clover, Ray! 

[Szykneij]

We should only get rid of Columbus Day if we change it instead to Columbo Day.



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