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No one has heard any of Inbal's Shostakovich cycle with the Vienna Symphony on Denon?

[kishnevi]

No one has heard any of Inbal's Shostakovich cycle with the Vienna Symphony on Denon?

Did not know he did one. 
His Frankfurt Mahler is my preference for best overall Mahler cycle (no individual performance beats the field but all are excellent, which most others can not say)...which augers well for DSCH.

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Did not know he did one. 
His Frankfurt Mahler is my preference for best overall Mahler cycle (no individual performance beats the field but all are excellent, which most others can not say)...which augers well for DSCH.

It's funny you mention his Mahler as I was talking to my dad yesterday about Inbal and he said basically the same you did that his cycle is one of the best. I'm not sure if he feels that it's 'the best' Mahler cycle, but he greatly enjoyed what was brought to the musical table.

I've known about Inbal's Shostakovich for quite some time, but I suppose around the time I felt I already had too many symphony cycles, but then I wised up and finally bought the Inbal.

[snyprrr]

No one has heard any of Inbal's Shostakovich cycle with the Vienna Symphony on Denon?

I believe 14 is excellent,... No.9 not so much,...I remember feeling the way you did, that his are very underrated,...plus the Denon sound,... yes, looking forward to some exposition,... actually, the Amazon Reviewers Brigade, I believe, has something to say about most of them,... I think 8 gets poopooed,... some good, some bad...

[snyprrr]

Cello Concerto No.1 (Sol Gabetta/ Maazel)

Cello Concerto No.2 (Rostropovich/ Ozawa)


No.1 always stuck in my craw,... that "jolly" opening,... yukk, blah,... but, Sol Gabetta and Maazel, "live", make a believer out of me. This is a rich, meaty performance, very slow and involved,... fat,... that turns it all around for me. I don't really have much to say about this work since it seems to be ... so.... obvious (?)... but, I'm starting to dig the finale like nothing else- 'Wizard of Oz' monkey music meets Klingon war music???- it's such a great "evil" theme of military buffoonery. Also, the slow mvmt here is especially poignant.

No.2, however, is one of DSCH's most... hidden... works. Who knows this by heart? Every time I hear it, I'm saying, wow, here's another great opening mvmt like in Symphony No.10,... there is so much waywardness all around that the whole piece seems like an enigma,... just generic angst caught perfectly,... I've always had Schiff, but hooked the Slava/Ozawa for $1, and this recording is so much more preferable to me than the No.1 recording by them on Erato. I really really loe this DG recording,... some of the winds are so fruity, and the bass drum and percussion are splendidly caught (though, to be fair, every strand of the argument is not always modernly separated). I'm always hearing new things in this work, like the "clock" theme at the very end, just like Symphony No.15, or the back and forth of the theme in the faster middle mvmt. It really almost sounds like a Symphony for Cello...


Anyhow, I'm interested in hearing all your thought concerning No.2,... I think I have to revisit the Violin Concerto No.2 also,... both of these works really fall under the radar, but - are they not Masterpieces? I've spent a few days with CC2, and the whole dark, paranoid feeling of the piece has really taken me,... there are sooo many beautiful moments of heart rending melody,... this piece is just what I needed to break from the String Quartets,... uh, though, mm, we'll see if it worked, lol...

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Cello Concerto No.1 (Sol Gabetta/ Maazel)

Cello Concerto No.2 (Rostropovich/ Ozawa)


No.1 always stuck in my craw,... that "jolly" opening,... yukk, blah,...

Hm. I can't say that the opening sounds at all 'jolly' to me, there is plenty of menace there from the start.

No.2, however, is one of DSCH's most... hidden... works. Who knows this by heart? Every time I hear it, I'm saying, wow, here's another great opening mvmt like in Symphony No.10,... there is so much waywardness all around that the whole piece seems like an enigma,... just generic angst caught perfectly,... I've always had Schiff, but hooked the Slava/Ozawa for $1, and this recording is so much more preferable to me than the No.1 recording by them on Erato. I really really loe this DG recording,... some of the winds are so fruity, and the bass drum and percussion are splendidly caught (though, to be fair, every strand of the argument is not always modernly separated). I'm always hearing new things in this work, like the "clock" theme at the very end, just like Symphony No.15, or the back and forth of the theme in the faster middle mvmt. It really almost sounds like a Symphony for Cello...


Anyhow, I'm interested in hearing all your thought concerning No.2,... I think I have to revisit the Violin Concerto No.2 also,... both of these works really fall under the radar, but - are they not Masterpieces? I've spent a few days with CC2, and the whole dark, paranoid feeling of the piece has really taken me,... there are sooo many beautiful moments of heart rending melody,... this piece is just what I needed to break from the String Quartets,... uh, though, mm, we'll see if it worked, lol...

I was lucky enough to hear Natalia Gutman play No. 2 in March 2010, and it was really something, although I would have appreciated and enjoyed the piece more later. Still, like the second Violin Concerto, it doesn't seem to have as much staying power in my head as the first concertos. Time to revisit the pair, I think.

[snyprrr]

Hm. I can't say that the opening sounds at all 'jolly' to me, there is plenty of menace there from the start.

I was lucky enough to hear Natalia Gutman play No. 2 in March 2010, and it was really something, although I would have appreciated and enjoyed the piece more later. Still, like the second Violin Concerto, it doesn't seem to have as much staying power in my head as the first concertos. Time to revisit the pair, I think.

Just spent two days with the VC2,... and,.. hmmm,... after the monumental CC2, I found myself a bit disappointed,... I don't know, ... it's so spare,... but, of course, I do like it, and the Vengerov is very crisply recorded,... but the music is quite spare, I really was taken aback this time, very odd,... I'll have to check against Sitkovetsky...

This one sounds the most like proto-Schnittke to me, even though there are no major outbursts... hmmm... sounds a lot like "Klingon" music to me, very martial and oppressive...

[aukhawk]

No one has heard any of Inbal's Shostakovich cycle with the Vienna Symphony on Denon?

I have the 5th but it doesn't impress - so much competition of course.

[aukhawk]

Cello Concerto No.1 (Sol Gabetta/ Maazel)
Cello Concerto No.2 (Rostropovich/ Ozawa)

... Anyhow, I'm interested in hearing all your thought concerning No.2,...

Funnily enough, my preference is for Rostropovitch in No.1 and Gabetta in No.2.  And Gabetta's CC2 is coupled with a really excellent Cello Sonata.

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I have the 5th but it doesn't impress - so much competition of course.

No one will ever beat my favorite in the 5th: Lenny's 1979 Live in Japan performance with the New York Philharmonic. Doesn't matter how good another performance may be. Nothing matches this one and the same goes for Lenny's CSO performance of the Leningrad on DG. I'll never be convinced there are better performances than these. So, I can be just as biased as anyone here.

[vandermolen]

Attended Prom concert in London tonight and greatly enjoyed a performance of Shostakovich's 10th Symphony with the Boston SO conducted by Andris Nelsons. The first movement was a little too 'polished' for my liking, but I guess that I'm used to hearing recordings of the raucous brass of USSR SO under Mravinsky or Svetlanov. However, the last three movements were terrific and overall I think that it was a great performance. They were even selling a new CD on DGG of these forces playing the work for £10 so I snapped up a copy (recorded live in Boston) which I shall look forward to hearing and comparing with tonight's concert.

[Karl Henning]

Attended Prom concert in London tonight and greatly enjoyed a performance of Shostakovich's 10th Symphony with the Boston SO conducted by Andris Nelsons. The first movement was a little too 'polished' for my liking, but I guess that I'm used to hearing recordings of the raucous brass of USSR SO under Mravinsky or Svetlanov. However, the last three movements were terrific and overall I think that it was a great performance. They were even selling a new CD on DGG of these forces playing the work for £10 so I snapped up a copy (recorded live in Boston) which I shall look forward to hearing and comparing with tonight's concert.

Glad our band gave satisfaction, Jeffrey!

[kishnevi]

Glad our band gave satisfaction, Jeffrey!

The CD performance gave great satisfaction to the other Jeffrey!

[vandermolen]

Glad our band gave satisfaction, Jeffrey!

They were terrific Karl and had a great reception from the promenaders and audience. Am not sure an encore was a great idea after Shostakovich's 10th Symphony but the composer's 'Gallop' was a fun choice.

[vandermolen]

The CD performance gave great satisfaction to the other Jeffrey!

Great to hear Jeffrey can't wait to hear it - will play it now. 

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[snyprrr]

you've been a verrry verry naughty boy mmm naughty naughty tsk tsk tsk

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[Maestro267]

I'm listening to the Cello Concerto No. 1 currently. Apparently the DSCH motif features in this work, but I cannot for the life of me spot it. Same with the third movement of the 15th Symphony. Can anyone give me some clues?

Also, I've just ordered a recording of the two Violin Concertos (one for the super cheap bargains thread). I've never heard these works before, and they're the last two concertos of his I need to get.