Greatest Genius who wasnt a composer?

Started by Saul, July 18, 2010, 09:39:06 AM

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Saul

In the sake of turning the question around... ;)

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Todd

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vandermolen

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Note please, that I am the only one taking this thread seriously - (why is there no smiley face with a halo?)

Edit: Todd got in there before me.
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Drasko

There is only one logical answer - Otto Weininger. Without Weininger there wouldn't be 'Josquin'; without 'Josquin' topic of Genius wouldn't be that heated affair on this forum; without topic of Genius being heated affair on this forum this thread wouldn't exist.


Todd

Quote from: James on July 19, 2010, 02:03:18 PM
what about those instrumentalists that don't necessarily compose or write?


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Josquin des Prez

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Quote from: Drasko on July 19, 2010, 01:52:12 PM
There is only one logical answer - Otto Weininger. Without Weininger there wouldn't be 'Josquin'; without 'Josquin' topic of Genius wouldn't be that heated affair on this forum; without topic of Genius being heated affair on this forum this thread wouldn't exist.

Actually, i already had a preliminary understanding of the nature of genius as long as i can remember. Even as i child always felt a sort of attraction for the type of personality only later i would come to identify as the genius. Weininger was a great help in finalizing my understanding of the concept but the idea was already in a fairly advanced state before i even heard of his work. Indeed, my investigations into the nature of great men is what led me to discover Weininger in the first place.

DavidRoss

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on July 19, 2010, 03:15:15 PM
Actually, i already had a preliminary understand of the nature of genius as long as i can remember. Even as i child always felt a sort of attraction for the type of personality only later i would come to identify as the genius. Weininger was a great help in finalizing my understanding of the concept but the idea was already in a fairly advanced state before i even heard of his work. Indeed, my investigations into the nature of great men is what led me to discover Weininger in the first place.

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Opus106

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on July 19, 2010, 03:15:15 PM
Indeed, my investigations into the nature of great men is what led me to discover Weininger in the first place.

And to this forum, of course.
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Sid

Leonardo Da Vinci? John Donne? Isaac Newton?

springrite

Maybe Da Vinci was a composer. We just haven't gotten around to that part of his life yet.




I'd say Da Vinci anyway.
Even if we allow all composers, I'd still say Da Vinci.
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Opus106

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Do you guys have any recommendations for good biographies of Leonardo?
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Saul

Quote from: Opus106 on July 20, 2010, 05:23:48 AM
Do you guys have any recommendations for good, uncontroversial (if there are any) biographies of Leonardo?

Not really


Lethevich

Quote from: springrite on July 20, 2010, 01:26:21 AM
Maybe Da Vinci was a composer. We just haven't gotten around to that part of his life yet.
Da Vinci actually wrote the music attributed as being late works by Mozart. What happened was that the Vatican kept the music hidden initially because it was too incomprehensable to the church authorities, but at the end of the baroque when they realised that there may be something to it after all they began to search for a composer talented enough to ask him to pretend to have written the music - to create a credible front. Mozart then visited the Vatican, heard Allegri's Miserere which was not allowed to have its score distributed by the authorities, but Mozart transcribed it from memory - thus demonstrating sufficient compositional ability - and he was selected to publish Da Vinci's musical masterpieces.

Yes...
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Saul

Quote from: Lethe on July 20, 2010, 09:14:53 AM
Da Vinci actually wrote the music attributed as being late works by Mozart. What happened was that the Vatican kept the music hidden initially because it was too incomprehensable to the church authorities, but at the end of the baroque when they realised that there may be something to it after all they began to search for a composer talented enough to ask him to pretend to have written the music - to create a credible front. Mozart then visited the Vatican, heard Allegri's Miserere which was not allowed to have its score distributed by the authorities, but Mozart transcribed it from memory - thus demonstrating sufficient compositional ability - and he was selected to publish Da Vinci's musical masterpieces.

Yes...
:-X

Chaszz

Quote from: springrite on July 20, 2010, 01:26:21 AM
Maybe Da Vinci was a composer. We just haven't gotten around to that part of his life yet.

I'd say Da Vinci anyway.
Even if we allow all composers, I'd still say Da Vinci.

Seriously, Leonardo Da Vinci was a much admired musician and composer.