Letter to Dr. Laura highlights fallacy in a particular anti-homosexual argument.

[abidoful]

You're now sounding like Saul, making definitive statements when there's nothing to back them up.

But perhaps I just don't have your inside information.  So please let me know how you're so sure that God disapproves of homosexual relations.

Saul is a Jew and i'm a Christian. But the topic of homosexuality isn't that troublesome. The are few places in the Old Testament about the topic and Gods attetude towards it is very clear; He doesn't approve it. Also later in the New Testament Paul writes about it.
If you like i can dig up those places?

[abidoful]

We live in a world that people who actually are listening to God's commandments are made fun of by the wicked, when the truth is that these people who follow God's word are loved by God.

Yes, but God loves everyone; He died for us- for Jews and gentiles.

[False_Dmitry]

But we shall all see who will laugh in the end...

Where does your Torah say that the ordinary people of Iran are "evil", and "deserve to die" in natural disasters?

[Saul]

Abidoful,

Jesus was no god, the vids I provided explain this carefully, he also never died for anyone but his own transgressions and sins. One of the greatest sins mentioned in the Torah is Human sacrifice. God warns the Jewish people not to learn from the pagans from their evil ways of sacrificing their children for the pagan god 'Molech'. God also says in the Ten Commandments not to attribute any physicality or image to him, for he is not a physical being, and even suggesting any physicality to him, is blasphemous.
God says in the Torah that the Laws of the Torah are applicable forever, never bound to any change :"Hukat Olam Le'dorotechem' - 'A Law of eternity for your generations'. He also says of the covenant he made with the Jewish people on Mount Sinai : "Brit Olam" - "A covenant for eternity". That means that he will never ever break his Law or Covenant , or change them in any way. That is crystal clear, and there's no two ways to look at it.  All this talk of Jesus been born of a virgin and then dieing for someone else's sins, is not a classical Christian Invention, but a replica they have made from this very common pagan theology. Virgin births and all powerful physical human gods, were a part of everyday life in the pagan world. Jews were the only ones who resisted these paganism, because they were armed with the knowledge of the Living God and His Torah, but the Pagans fell to the Christian inventions, because they mirrored their own pagan ways.

[Florestan]

After reading the first two pages of this thread, I felt the urge to reply to the two usual suspects (who are truly kindred minds, despite the fact that one is a religious fanatic and the other an atheist fanatic) plus to someone who made an extremely inaccurate and ignorant remark about Jesus Christ.

But then I said to myself: been there, done that, many times and in almost the same context. So I decided to abstain.

Still, all things considered, this thread is so much fun that I had to post in it --- just because it's so convenient to find it on the "new replies list". 

[Catison]

It's the ultimate commitment.

Dan. is it possible to make this commitment without marriage?  Is marriage necessary for commitment?

[False_Dmitry]

And as to Iran, they are a wicked and evil nation, and keeping homosexuality out of Iran is not enough to escape god's punishments. They are the number 1 exporters and financers of terrorism, so lets not be surprised why they are getting hit with earthquakes. As I said, there are other reasons listed in the Talmud for  earthquakes, not only homosexuality, therefore if they break those other reasons they will get punished.

[Scarpia]

Saul is a Jew and i'm a Christian. But the topic of homosexuality isn't that troublesome. The are few places in the Old Testament about the topic and Gods attetude towards it is very clear; He doesn't approve it. Also later in the New Testament Paul writes about it.
If you like i can dig up those places?

It never occurred to you the people who regard that book at the word of god are a small minority, and that most people in the world follow other religious tradition, or none at all?

[Florestan]

It never occurred to you the people who regard that book at the word of god are a small minority [...]

In some backward countries such as Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain they are still a vast majority. Just saying. 

Is there any connection between that fact and those countries being among favorite tourist destination even for atheists? Just asking.

[Gurn Blanston]

OK, we're done here. Go listen to some music and report back.

GB