Amazingly strange, funny, amusing, interesting, scene about Beethoven

[Saul]

Holy Mac!!!

He calls ugly beautiful!!!


What's your take on it?


http://www.youtube.com/v/G-kVb9xfHVA&feature=related

[Josquin des Prez]

What's your take on it?

Populist trash. He speaks of guts during a period when Beethoven was at his most lucid, and least impulsive. The entire aesthetic ideal of western art is to transcend our bodies to achieve something greater, something eternal. And here's some brainless director abusing history to propagate some anti-intellectual, primitivist screed. As if the horrors of 20th "entertainment" wasn't proof enough of what happens when the "visceral" takes control over mind and the soul. What a disgusting film.

Ho, and while i understand the need to demystify Beethoven's deafness, which wasn't as sudden as people think, i'm pretty sure by the time he wrote the fugue his hearing was already quite gone, enough that he wouldn't be able to converse with people, or hear his own music.

[Saul]

Populist trash. He speaks of guts during a period when Beethoven was at his most lucid, and least impulsive. The entire aesthetic ideal of western art is to transcend our bodies to achieve something greater, something eternal. And here's some brainless director abusing history to populated some anti-intellectual, primitivist screed. As if the horrors of 20th "entertainment" wasn't proof enough of what happens when the "visceral" takes control over mind and the soul. What a disgusting film.

Ho, and while i understand the need to demystify Beethoven's deafness, which wasn't as sudden as people think, i'm pretty sure by the time he wrote the fugue his hearing was already quite gone, enough that he wouldn't be able to converse with people, or hear his own music.

Yes the director made him look like a major fool...

[Philoctetes]

That movie was terrible, but Kruger was hot.

[DavidW]

That movie was terrible, but Kruger was hot.

Precisely.   Wasn't she Helen in Troy?  One topless scene later and war breaks loose.

[Philoctetes]

Precisely.   Wasn't she Helen in Troy?  One topless scene later and war breaks loose.

She was indeed Helen.