Unlabeled files on my hard drive

[Brian]

Clicked this out of curiosity, have never heard it at all before, and all the descriptors are marked as "unknown." It's a work for string orchestra, sounds kind of Wagnerian; the second movement actually quotes the Tristan chord.

Here's the first movement as an m4a file (which is what it was). Does anybody know what this might be?
EDIT: If that link doesn't work, it's the file uploaded on May 18, here.

[Opus106]

Schoenberg's Verklärte Nacht, in the version for string orchestra if I'm not mistaken.

[Brian]

Thanks, Op106!

Found another one, though. This is a symphony. I've uploaded the second-movement scherzo, since it's the shortest movement. I think I downloaded it from GMG, so somebody here must know what it is. It's the file that says Mystery Symphony - Scherzo.

[Opus106]

Thanks, Op106!

Found another one, though. This is a symphony. I've uploaded the second-movement scherzo, since it's the shortest movement. I think I downloaded it from GMG, so somebody here must know what it is. It's the file that says Mystery Symphony - Scherzo.

You're welcome, Brian. As for the second mystery file, I'm sure I have not heard it before, so I'm looking forward to knowing the name of the piece, which sounds early Romantic -- a period I have neglected for a long time now.

[Papy Oli]

No idea what it is but i like it   

[Brian]

Thanks, Op106!

Found another one, though. This is a symphony. I've uploaded the second-movement scherzo, since it's the shortest movement. I think I downloaded it from GMG, so somebody here must know what it is. It's the file that says Mystery Symphony - Scherzo.

Just going to bump this. Several forum searches turned up nothing.

[kishnevi]

Just going to bump this. Several forum searches turned up nothing.

I don't recognize it, either, but I do very much like it.  It does sound early Romantic,  almost as if Beethoven and Schubert had jointly written it.

I hope someone IDs it!

[mahler10th]

This mystery sounds very much like Berlioz to me, but I don't know what.   

EDIT:  Nah, it's not Berlioz...there is just a wee bit more classical invention in it than romantic intervention.  There's something in it that we've all probably heard somewhere else, but I don't know what it is.  Same as when you hear a piece and can't remember the composer, same feeling but this time you don't know the composer!  How frustrating.

Pah.   

[MishaK]

This mystery sounds very much like Berlioz to me, but I don't know what.   

EDIT:  Nah, it's not Berlioz...there is just a wee bit more classical invention in it than romantic intervention.  There's something in it that we've all probably heard somewhere else, but I don't know what it is.  Same as when you hear a piece and can't remember the composer, same feeling but this time you don't know the composer!  How frustrating.

Pah.   

I can see why you would say Berlioz, but this has a distinctly central European feel. The area around 5:00 sounds rather Austrian. The brass scoring is distinctly romantic. Brian, could you post the tempo indications for the other movements? That might help in locating the suspect.

[mc ukrneal]

Gosh, sounds early 19th century to me. I'd try searching around Czerny, Reicha, Danzi, and composers like that. I checked Ries and Onslow and I don't think it was them. 

[Brian]

I've only got two movements...

Mvt 1: Largo - Adagio - Andante - Allegro con fuoco
Mvt 2: Scherzo (Molto vivace) - Trio (Allegro)

Here's the first movement

[MishaK]

I've only got two movements...

Mvt 1: Largo - Adagio - Andante - Allegro con fuoco
Mvt 2: Scherzo (Molto vivace) - Trio (Allegro)

Here's the first movement

Listening to this first movement makes me think we ought to look a bit later in the 19th century. This sounds like someone less original who was imitating the styles of older masters, but had already absorbed a bit or Bruckner's and Brahms' influences. Also the over 20 minutes of length suggest one should exclude the early 19th century.

[Scarpia]

Boy, you people are Google challenged.  It took me all of 10 seconds to find out that they are by Johann Rufinatscha.  Symphony 5, second movement, Symphony 6, first movement.


http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=6772.20

[mc ukrneal]

Boy, you people are Google challenged.  It took me all of 10 seconds to find out that they are by Johann Rufinatscha.  Symphony 5, second movement, Symphony 6, first movement.


http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=6772.20

What's google? And what are these i-thingies I keep hearing about? I think I'll just go back to my cave now...

[Brian]

Apparently Googling is hard. I searched the old GMG thoroughly and repeatedly, and read every major thread in the new GMG's "Name That Tune" subforum. I also thought Manuel had posted the original, so I checked every thread Manuel started. Didn't anticipate that it was a JoshLilly thread in General Discussion.


Good news... Chandos begins a complete Rufinatscha symphony cycle this month!!! 

[Scarpia]

Apparently Googling is hard. I searched the old GMG thoroughly and repeatedly, and read every major thread in the new GMG's "Name That Tune" subforum. I also thought Manuel had posted the original, so I checked every thread Manuel started. Didn't anticipate that it was a JoshLilly thread in General Discussion.

All I had to do was type "Largo - Adagio - Andante - Allegro con fuoco" into the generic Google search page and it came up as the first result.

[Opus106]

All I had to do was type "Largo - Adagio - Andante - Allegro con fuoco" into the generic Google search page and it came up as the first result.

Hm... never had a result with that exact string a few days ago. Google tried to be helpful by suggesting that I remove the quotes.

[MishaK]

Boy, you people are Google challenged.  It took me all of 10 seconds to find out that they are by Johann Rufinatscha.  Symphony 5, second movement, Symphony 6, first movement.


http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=6772.20

Well, it sure would have been easier if we hadn't been thinking that the two files belong to the same symphony.