Only the New (music)

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Philoctetes

Quote from: Greg on November 12, 2010, 05:18:06 PM
Glad David mentioned Schwantner. I just about forgot about his existence.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Z3-JZBEIBWI&feature=related
Here's an excerpt of his Percussion Concerto, which is just awesome.



This CD right here is the one to get.

Thanks for that. I'll listen to that as well this weekend.

And for your morning, meditative: Kyle Bobby Dunn

http://www.youtube.com/v/JA6XAKbjazY

knight66

Compelling and mysterious, Kurtag, Stele, Here is Stele II (1994).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TcZnZYt4I

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

Philoctetes

Quote from: knight on November 13, 2010, 09:20:56 AM
Compelling and mysterious, Kurtag, Stele, Here is Stele II (1994).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TcZnZYt4I

Mike

Thanks. Man, I have an awesome queue of music lined up for tonight. Thanks for all of the posts, thus far.

Brahmsian

Quote from: James on November 13, 2010, 12:54:06 PM
Here is my brief little personal listing of recommendations post-1970  ;D
(links to choice recordings included)

Birtwistle, Secret Theatre (1984)
Ligeti, Piano Études (1985-2001)
Donatoni, Françoise Variationen (1983-1996)
Viñao, Son Entero (1988)
Gubaidulina, Offertorium (1981/82/86)
Harvey, Mortuos plango, vivos voco (1980)
Stockhausen, Freude (2005)

Welcome back, James!  :)

Brian

Here's a piece by a guy I knew in college (last year), Keith Allegretti. I loved some of his music (there's an ingenious song cycle for soprano, harp, and double bass), but unfortunately, he heard that I disliked some of his other music and not that I loved afores... okay, this is going to be a hard sentence to construct. Bottom line: he doesn't like me, but I really like his music. Definitely cheering for him.


http://www.youtube.com/v/XxrzMf8QBXA

(better than its title!)

Philoctetes

Quote from: Greg on November 12, 2010, 05:18:06 PM
Glad David mentioned Schwantner. I just about forgot about his existence.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Z3-JZBEIBWI&feature=related
Here's an excerpt of his Percussion Concerto, which is just awesome.



This CD right here is the one to get.

I really enjoyed that piece. Thanks for posting it.

Philoctetes

Quote from: knight on November 13, 2010, 09:20:56 AM
Compelling and mysterious, Kurtag, Stele, Here is Stele II (1994).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TcZnZYt4I

Mike

I've always enjoyed Kurtag. His Kafka Fragments are totally fab.

Philoctetes

Quote from: James on November 13, 2010, 12:54:06 PM
Here is my brief little personal listing of recommendations post-1970  ;D
(links to choice recordings included)

Birtwistle, Secret Theatre (1984)
Ligeti, Piano Études (1985-2001)
Donatoni, Françoise Variationen (1983-1996)
Viñao, Son Entero (1988)
Gubaidulina, Offertorium (1981/82/86)
Harvey, Mortuos plango, vivos voco (1980)
Stockhausen, Freude (2005)

Thanks for the recording list. I'll definitely look into these.

Philoctetes

Quote from: Brian on November 13, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
Here's a piece by a guy I knew in college (last year), Keith Allegretti. I loved some of his music (there's an ingenious song cycle for soprano, harp, and double bass), but unfortunately, he heard that I disliked some of his other music and not that I loved afores... okay, this is going to be a hard sentence to construct. Bottom line: he doesn't like me, but I really like his music. Definitely cheering for him.


http://www.youtube.com/v/XxrzMf8QBXA

(better than its title!)

That wasn't bad at all. Thanks for sharing.

For you all tonight: Gilad Hochman

http://www.youtube.com/v/oeT1PkzEyAY

Philoctetes

Quote from: Philoctetes on November 12, 2010, 04:31:27 PM
Thanks for that link. I'll try and give that a listen this weekend.

Damnit, David. I think I missed that show. I can't seem to find a podcast of it. That sucks, but thanks for the links. I'll see if I can hear those composers anywhere else.  :)

Scarpia

I listened to something "new."  The Weinberg clarinet concerto.  But it doesn't really fit in with this thread, whose theme seems to be "things whose principal virtue is their newness.  ;D  Alas Weinberg doesn't require the clarinet to do anything "interesting" like blow in the wrong end, replace the reed with a guitar pick, or fill the clarinet with soybeans.  Just boring, identifiable tones.   :'(

some guy

Scarpia, new was defined in the original post as chronological, not laudatory.

The things that have been posted so far have many virtues. For none of them is the principal virtue newness.

That new techniques are interesting says nothing about the interest of identifiable tones. They're still interesting too. I wonder why you present them (via sarcasm) as more virtuous than soybeans or guitar picks, though?

And, lastly, if this thread is not to your taste, then why do you feel compelled to come and trample all over it? Why not just leave it be? We like this music. And most of us have been able to dislike individual offerings without trampling all over them.

DavidW

Quote from: Greg on November 12, 2010, 05:18:06 PM
Glad David mentioned Schwantner. I just about forgot about his existence.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Z3-JZBEIBWI&feature=related
Here's an excerpt of his Percussion Concerto, which is just awesome.


That was great Greg! :)  Schwanter really has a talent for creating dark, atmospheric music. :)

DavidW

Allegretti's sonata sounded more bland than "demented", polite salon music, Ditters has written more exciting stuff. >:D

But I liked the Hochman piece, that was quite good. :)

Philoctetes

Quote from: some guy on November 14, 2010, 10:24:33 AM
Scarpia, new was defined in the original post as chronological, not laudatory.

The things that have been posted so far have many virtues. For none of them is the principal virtue newness.

That new techniques are interesting says nothing about the interest of identifiable tones. They're still interesting too. I wonder why you present them (via sarcasm) as more virtuous than soybeans or guitar picks, though?

And, lastly, if this thread is not to your taste, then why do you feel compelled to come and trample all over it? Why not just leave it be? We like this music. And most of us have been able to dislike individual offerings without trampling all over them.

I echo the sentiments of this post.

I'm hoping that everyone is posting music that they enjoy, rather than music that is simply 'new'.

@DavidW, glad that you enjoyed Hochman.

Brian



Just beginning to listen to this work of minimalist piano music from 1979-82. 67 minutes of uninterrupted meditations on sounds... should be fun!

Philoctetes


Philoctetes

Quote from: Brian on November 14, 2010, 11:07:15 AM


Just beginning to listen to this work of minimalist piano music from 1979-82. 67 minutes of uninterrupted meditations on sounds... should be fun!

I know I'm jealous. Those works are collected under an awesome title, as well.  ;D

DavidW

Checkout this fantastic quintet written by Heinz Holliger.  Some might be put off by the start and stop jerkiness exhibited in some passages, but it has a great sound scape, and the first half of the second movement has an unfolding quality to it, very Simpson like. :)

http://www.youtube.com/v/oSYA6A1-RbQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/CDcneX9Yh_M

Philoctetes

Quote from: DavidW on November 14, 2010, 11:15:03 AM
Checkout this fantastic quintet written by Heinz Holliger.  Some might be put off by the start and stop jerkiness exhibited in some passages, but it has a great sound scape, and the first half of the second movement has an unfolding quality to it, very Simpson like. :)

http://www.youtube.com/v/oSYA6A1-RbQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/CDcneX9Yh_M

That was supremely entertaining. I, in particular, loved all of the lines, and the points at which he decided them to converge, very entertaining.