A New Way of Posting

Started by George, January 20, 2011, 05:06:10 AM

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George

Bill and I have been speaking about posting our listening/purchases/questions in threads devoted to that particular work or artist. He proposed the idea awhile back and I thought it was a brilliant one. I like the idea of more extensive discussion on what I am listening or buying.

I have started doing this exclusively (I don't post in the listening or purchase thread) and find it keeps all the info about a particular work/artist in one place. I plan to continue to post in this fashion.

I believe that some folks were already doing this (Todd, Mandryka, Verena, etc.) 

Just wanted to let others know and invite others to do so. :)

Opus106

Quote from: George on January 20, 2011, 05:06:10 AM
I like the idea of more extensive discussion on what I am listening or buying.

I think Rob had pretty much the same idea when he started GMG. ;D

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I have started doing this exclusively (I don't post in the listening or purchase thread) and find it keeps all the info about a particular work/artist in one place.

Unless, of course, some one starts two other threads for same composer/artist. ::)

Now, seriously, the one downside of such a practice that I immediately notice: smaller chance of coming across a new composer/artist/work. Speaking for myself, I don't visit all composer threads, for example, only those that interest me. But I visit the listening thread (hoping for some comments from listeners) where a comment could pique my interest in the composer. You might have noticed that Sonic Dave often cross-posts between the listening thread and also at the appropriate thread for the composer, say. Would you consider that as an option?
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Navneeth

The Diner


(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: George on January 20, 2011, 05:06:10 AM
Bill and I have been speaking about posting our listening/purchases/questions in threads devoted to that particular work or artist. He proposed the idea awhile back and I thought it was a brilliant one. I like the idea of more extensive discussion on what I am listening or buying.

I have started doing this exclusively (I don't post in the listening or purchase thread) and find it keeps all the info about a particular work/artist in one place. I plan to continue to post in this fashion.

I believe that some folks were already doing this (Todd, Mandryka, Verena, etc.) 

Just wanted to let others know and invite others to do so. :)

Why not just use the Search feature?
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Scarpia

Quote from: George on January 20, 2011, 05:06:10 AM
Bill and I have been speaking about posting our listening/purchases/questions in threads devoted to that particular work or artist. He proposed the idea awhile back and I thought it was a brilliant one. I like the idea of more extensive discussion on what I am listening or buying.

I have started doing this exclusively (I don't post in the listening or purchase thread) and find it keeps all the info about a particular work/artist in one place. I plan to continue to post in this fashion.

I believe that some folks were already doing this (Todd, Mandryka, Verena, etc.) 

Just wanted to let others know and invite others to do so. :)

Two questions.

Who is Bill?

What is new?

People have always started new threads when they find they have something substantial to say about a work.  They post to the listening thread when they just have a random thought or two to share, which occasionally blossoms into a discussion.   If you are going to start a new thread every time you have a brief comment on something we will end up with a million empty threads.  I don't see the point.

Brian


Daverz

Quote from: Sforzando on January 20, 2011, 05:29:15 AM
Why not just use the Search feature?

It's not really conducive to conversations.  If you're replying to a month old post in the "Listening" thread, it's probably just confusing.

I guess I have no objection to this.  The only non-Diner threads that bug me are the vanity threads, and I just ignore them.

Bogey

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Quote from: Scarpia on January 20, 2011, 11:37:05 AM
Two questions.

Who is Bill?

What is new?

People have always started new threads when they find they have something substantial to say about a work.  They post to the listening thread when they just have a random thought or two to share, which occasionally blossoms into a discussion.   If you are going to start a new thread every time you have a brief comment on something we will end up with a million empty threads.  I don't see the point.

Who is Bill?  The guy with the cool fedora. 8)

Rarely do I have to start a new thread (well, that is not really true ;D).  And your comment on "occasionally blossoms into a discussion" is exactly what I want to keep track of.  I can go right to a Morevec thread or a Haydn thread and find answers to questions I had more quickly because they are more contained.  Like the post you put in the Rach thread:

Quote from: Scarpia on January 16, 2011, 07:02:59 PM
I find this one essential.  Jansons knows what he is doing, and the sound of a real Russian orchestra adds some authenticity to the proceedings.  Outstanding, and inexpensive, these days.

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I put this set on my wish-list and when I get it, I will comment back there and hope the discussion continues instead of trying to find your post in a longer thread from weeks ago.   

Also,

1. Folks that are into Rach are likely to click on the new post and are likely to comment on it.  The Haydn thread is another good example.  If you like a new Haydn recording, post it there.  Folks digging on Haydn may chat, even if they have taken a few weeks off from the site.  If they took time off, they are unlikely to scroll through all of the listening posts over days or weeks they were gone.  Also, I may have a question answered about a recording.....want a recording recommended.....spend my money on a totally different angle of music for two months.....then want to backtrack to what I originally wanted. 

2. When I want to see what folks think about a composer or performer, I usually start reading the threads dedicated to them specifically.  Much faster than weeding through every "listening post", which sometimes contains a cd shot and no comment.

3. I tend to get more feedback in specific threads as well.

Just my take and what works for me.  I still post in the listening, just not like I used to.:)

However, the negative side is that my wish-list has swollen to levels that even I did not expect. :D

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Scarpia

Quote from: Bogey on January 20, 2011, 05:00:44 PM
Who is Bill?  The guy with the cool fedora. 8)

Rarely do I have to start a new thread (well, that is not really true ;D).  And your comment on "occasionally blossoms into a discussion" is exactly what I want to keep track of.  I can go right to a Morevec thread or a Haydn thread and find answers to questions I had more quickly because they are more contained.  Like the post you put in the Rach thread:

I put this set on my wish-list and when I get it, I will comment back there and hope the discussion continues instead of trying to find your post in a longer thread from weeks ago.   

Also,

1. Folks that are into Rach are likely to click on the new post and are likely to comment on it.  The Haydn thread is another good example.  If you like a new Haydn recording, post it there.  Folks digging on Haydn may chat, even if they have taken a few weeks off from the site.  If they took time off, they are unlikely to scroll through all of the listening posts over days or weeks they were gone.  Also, I may have a question answered about a recording.....want a recording recommended.....spend my money on a totally different angle of music for two months.....then want to backtrack to what I originally wanted. 

2. When I want to see what folks think about a composer or performer, I usually start reading the threads dedicated to them specifically.  Much faster than weeding through every "listening post", which sometimes contains a cd shot and no comment.

3. I tend to get more feedback in specific threads as well.

Just my take and what works for me.  I still post in the listening, just not like I used to.:)

However, the negative side is that my wish-list has swollen to levels that even I did not expect. :D

Fair enough, but I didn't see that thread as being anything as grandiose as "a new way of posting."   There are lots of composer specific, genre specific or work specific threads.  They're usually the most interesting threads, but I still find it useful to visit the "what are you listening to" thread just to see if there is a recording mentioned that slipped under my radar.

Bogey

Quote from: Scarpia on January 20, 2011, 05:24:11 PM
Fair enough, but I didn't see that thread as being anything as grandiose as "a new way of posting."   There are lots of composer specific, genre specific or work specific threads.  They're usually the most interesting threads, but I still find it useful to visit the "what are you listening to" thread just to see if there is a recording mentioned that slipped under my radar.

Those do not help my wish-list either. ;D

However, I am printing George's comment about the "brilliant" part, warranted, or not,  and showing it to my wife pronto.  Thanks, buddy! :)
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Bogey

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Quote from: Scarpia on January 20, 2011, 05:24:11 PM
Fair enough, but I didn't see that thread as being anything as grandiose as "a new way of posting."   There are lots of composer specific, genre specific or work specific threads.  They're usually the most interesting threads, but I still find it useful to visit the "what are you listening to" thread just to see if there is a recording mentioned that slipped under my radar.

For me it is a shift, as it makes me pause and comment on the music a bit more and read more carefully what others have to say or what they have said in the past....even comments that are more than a year old.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Bogey

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

George

Quote from: Bogey on January 20, 2011, 05:00:44 PM
Who is Bill?  The guy with the cool fedora. 8)

;D

Quote1. Folks that are into Rach are likely to click on the new post and are likely to comment on it.  The Haydn thread is another good example.  If you like a new Haydn recording, post it there.  Folks digging on Haydn may chat, even if they have taken a few weeks off from the site.  If they took time off, they are unlikely to scroll through all of the listening posts over days or weeks they were gone.  Also, I may have a question answered about a recording.....want a recording recommended.....spend my money on a totally different angle of music for two months.....then want to backtrack to what I originally wanted. 

Yes and luckily we have moderators like Que, who efficiently consolidate new and old threads with the same topic, aiding in the retrieval of info.

One of my goals this year is to listen more and buy less. I also plan to post after listening, rather than simply paste album covers of what I just put on the stereo or just bought at the store. This is what I mean by a new way of posting. It's more focused on sharing insights about stuff that I have listened to and discussing it with others, more focused on posting in concentrated threads that will make future retrieval easy for myself and others. In many ways, this forum has become a treasure trove of information about many different composers and performers. I just think we could take things a bit further and post in a way that leads to more organization and promotes discussion. I rarely post in the Chopin or Richter thread and not get a response that leads to a friendly exchange of opinions/ideas. On the other hand, I have posted hundreds (maybe thousands) of images in the listening and purchases thread with no response from others (and often no comment provided by me.) 

I recall a thread we had on the old board devoted to the Beethoven String Quartets. It was many pages long and at the time I was looking for a second (and maybe third) set of the QTs. Reading that existing thread made the process easy. I was able to scan the recommendations and narrow down the many choices. In the end, I got the stereo Vegh set, one of my favorite Beethoven purchases ever. I also picked up the Julliard set and got a very different take on the QTs. I knew in advance that it'd be different due to the detailed descriptions I had read in the thread.

Another example is late last year I had found a cheap used copy of Lulu/Wozzeck, but wasn't sure if it was any good. I called Karl on the phone and he was able to find a few useful comments in a Lulu thread in just a couple of minutes. I bought the recording (Bohm, DG) and was very happy with it.

George

Quote from: Bogey on January 20, 2011, 05:36:16 PM
For me it is a shift, as it makes me pause and comment on the music a bit more and read more carefully what others have to say or what they have said in the past....even comments that are more than a year old.

Yes and as I mentioned earlier, many members were/are already using the forum in this way. For some reason I never considered it, though. I figured I'd start a new thread to mention it to others who may have not considered the manner in which they post.