Job Suggestions?

[karlhenning]

Not at all.  It was just an uninformed comment, and you did take it back.

Well, it was speculation. Goodness knows, Greg is the only soul on GMG to post speculatively ; )

[Cato]

I might have mentioned earlier: there are all kinds of long-haul trucking companies here in Ohio begging for drivers!  Billboards everywhere and even radio ads saying "apply today" and get "a $3,000 signing bonus."  It would not matter too much where you live, since you will be on the road, like Willie Nelson!

It would help to have a Commercial Driver's license of course: I understand that "truck-driving school" lasts 3-6 weeks.

Not the best for a budding composer of course, but you could build a nest egg for the future, while you compose things in your head while on I-75!     Just pay attention to the road!   

[ibanezmonster]

As far as a job goes,... oh, and I see you live in Orlando (yeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkk,... my dad lives there,... uh, nice place ),... do ya speak spanish, son? Oh, I'm sorry, you're white, male, and under forty,...hmm,... looks like you don't GET a job!! I could lead you to some Great Depressing Websites,...take my advice, move in with your mom and volunteer (one NEEDS to do sooomething). "They' who control the money want everyone empowered but you,... sorry.

I think this is only a certain part of Orlando. Where my dad works, I think is around the area they call "little Mexico."

Also, Apopka is totally full of Hispanic people- that's where I went to school (elementary-high school) and I would estimate ~1/4 of the kids there were Spanish.

Today, in downtown Orlando, I was nearly shocked when I thought about this post. It's been years since I actually walked around in the city, so I guess I never thought about it before. Almost everyone walking around was either black or white- very small percentage of Spanish people.

It was wonderful spending a couple of hours just walking around there after years of redneck-ville. The only thing I felt after it was over was that it's just too small of a city. You almost can't get lost. 

[ibanezmonster]

I called back about the library jobs, and she said I'm "still in consideration" with 3 of the jobs I've applied to. This is good, but those jobs I've applied to were between a month and two weeks ago. Does it really take that long to get people to interview? 

I don't know if I already wrote about this, but same thing with a job I applied to about month ago. I e-mailed them, and they said, "They are currently thinking over this job position." Almost like the job I almost got. Nice!

Probably, I'll try to get into something like a stocking position somewhere. I came to the realization that that's a huge possibility I overlooked- I'll hate it mildly, but it'll be bearable if part-time. It's like a library shelver job (which isn't bad at all), but just at any major place, like a grocery store, Target, Lowe's, whatever. Obviously not nearly as good, but the advantage is that you don't have to deal with random people, which is my main problem.

I hate pretending to be polite to strangers. It is one of the single most annoying and unbearable things in the world, and the thing that makes most jobs undoable for me. I like working with people that are fun and relaxing to be around or working by myself- that's the only thing I can do. Not being able to be myself is deeply unsettling to me, which is probably the main cause of my problem.

Pretty much anything where you can escape into your own world without being interrupted by people is something I'm going to consider.

[Brian]

If Greg doesn't mind the intrusion...
I will write anything, and I am very good.
I will edit anything, and I am pretty good.
I will teach anything in my fields (literature, history) but the master's degree isn't official until October which is a bit of a problem.

I have two or possibly three books in various stages of existence so it's all really a bit of a placeholder anyways.

I hate pretending to be polite to strangers. It is one of the single most annoying and unbearable things in the world, and the thing that makes most jobs undoable for me.

Certainly not something to say at the interview for, say, front desk guy, but if you are willing to undertake the hours to be, say, a nighttime stocker or forklift dude or otherwise back-end employee, then this trait actually becomes not just okay but beneficial, and something they're looking for. After all, they will appreciate that you can work by yourself all day/night and not go mad.

[ibanezmonster]

I will teach anything in my fields (literature, history) but the master's degree isn't official until October which is a bit of a problem.

nice...

Certainly not something to say at the interview for, say, front desk guy, but if you are willing to undertake the hours to be, say, a nighttime stocker or forklift dude or otherwise back-end employee, then this trait actually becomes not just okay but beneficial, and something they're looking for. After all, they will appreciate that you can work by yourself all day/night and not go mad.

That's good. I won't say that I hate people, but I could say that I don't mind working by myself. 

[Szykneij]

Certainly not something to say at the interview for, say, front desk guy, but if you are willing to undertake the hours to be, say, a nighttime stocker or forklift dude or otherwise back-end employee, then this trait actually becomes not just okay but beneficial, and something they're looking for. After all, they will appreciate that you can work by yourself all day/night and not go mad.

Not something so say under any circumstances. No employer wants to hire a possible sociopath. "The ability to work independently" is the way to describe it.

[ibanezmonster]

Hm, during that 9 day vacation, I don't think I had one moment of misery.
Two short days back to work and the suicidal thoughts return already. I wonder how many positions I'll have to apply to at the library until I get an e-mail back. It's been at least 10 so far... 30, maybe?


You know, it's all a system. I don't think other people think about it much, but it really exists. The reason why you have to pay for college and why you are expected to work for college is that the big corporations need a large, minimum wage work force to stay in business so that the owners can make their millions. There are not many high-profile jobs compared to what is needed at places like retail, supermarkets, restaurants, etc.

The reason why they promote promiscuity and love is because they want something the "simple-minded" minimum wage worker can live for... same thing with beer, simple TV shows and simple music on the radio. They want to dumb down people because it keeps a balance in society. As long as the minimum wage worker can go home and watch Nascar, get drunk, and hump, he's fine. And if they encourage you to go to school, they know that many of them drop out because it's ridiculously hard to study and work at the same time- and once you drop out, you're almost surely not going back.   

Fuck the system. Fuck the world.

The human race should just stop reproducing and die out peacefully.

[Mirror Image]

Hm, during that 9 day vacation, I don't think I had one moment of misery.
Two short days back to work and the suicidal thoughts return already. I wonder how many positions I'll have to apply to at the library until I get an e-mail back. It's been at least 10 so far... 30, maybe?


You know, it's all a system. I don't think other people think about it much, but it really exists. The reason why you have to pay for college and why you are expected to work for college is that the big corporations need a large, minimum wage work force to stay in business so that the owners can make their millions. There are not many high-profile jobs compared to what is needed at places like retail, supermarkets, restaurants, etc.

The reason why they promote promiscuity and love is because they want something the "simple-minded" minimum wage worker can live for... same thing with beer, simple TV shows and simple music on the radio. They want to dumb down people because it keeps a balance in society. As long as the minimum wage worker can go home and watch Nascar, get drunk, and hump, he's fine. And if they encourage you to go to school, they know that many of them drop out because it's ridiculously hard to study and work at the same time- and once you drop out, you're almost surely not going back.   

Fuck the system. Fuck the world.

The human race should just stop reproducing and die out peacefully.

Such pessimism, Greg. There aren't many jobs available now and you should be thankful that you have one. Where do you work again? Lowe's? If you're having a problem in the position you're in, then why don't you ask your manager to transfer to another part of the store?

[Brahmsian]

Hm, during that 9 day vacation, I don't think I had one moment of misery.
Two short days back to work and the suicidal thoughts return already. I wonder how many positions I'll have to apply to at the library until I get an e-mail back. It's been at least 10 so far... 30, maybe?


You know, it's all a system. I don't think other people think about it much, but it really exists. The reason why you have to pay for college and why you are expected to work for college is that the big corporations need a large, minimum wage work force to stay in business so that the owners can make their millions. There are not many high-profile jobs compared to what is needed at places like retail, supermarkets, restaurants, etc.

The reason why they promote promiscuity and love is because they want something the "simple-minded" minimum wage worker can live for... same thing with beer, simple TV shows and simple music on the radio. They want to dumb down people because it keeps a balance in society. As long as the minimum wage worker can go home and watch Nascar, get drunk, and hump, he's fine. And if they encourage you to go to school, they know that many of them drop out because it's ridiculously hard to study and work at the same time- and once you drop out, you're almost surely not going back.   

Fuck the system. Fuck the world.

The human race should just stop reproducing and die out peacefully.

I pretty much agree 100% with what you say, Greg.

[Mirror Image]

I pretty much agree 100% with what you say, Greg.

Oh, I think he has a valid point too, but I just think sometimes he complains about things that are out of his control. It's not his fault that the library won't follow up with him, it's not his fault that he can't find something better, but the reality of the matter is simple: times are extremely tough right now in the United States. He has a job right now and I'm glad he does. He's very fortunate. There are people getting out of college right now that can barely get jobs at MacDonald's.

[Gurn Blanston]

Oh, I think he has a valid point too, but I just think sometimes he complains about things that are out of his control. It's not his fault that the library won't follow up with him, it's not his fault that he can't find something better, but the reality of the matter is simple: times are extremely tough right now in the United States. He has a job right now and I'm glad he does. He's very fortunate. There are people getting out of college right now that can barely get jobs at MacDonald's.

Maybe it IS his fault. Maybe he projects his negative attitude there like he does here a lot. Maybe they don't want to hire someone who is so full of negative waves, figuring he is the sort of person who will wander in with an AR15 one day when he is pissed off at someone there. Also, maybe it IS his fault that he can't find something better, and for some of those same reasons. You're right, jobs are tight. No one wants to take a chance on hiring someone and making an investment in their training and all, and then they turn off to be an asshole that only makes trouble or wants special treatment all the time (I will only work here if you provide women who will talk to me and are pretty, and smart, but not TOO smart... ).

I say this as an employer. I know I sure as hell am not going to waste my precious few openings on someone who I'm not sure even wants the job, and who has serious attitude issues. Or at least, certainly seems to have. Appearance IS reality.

[mikkeljs]

Great thread! Very relevant for musicians who only care about music and therefore can have problems finding a job.

Im looking for a job too, if possible a fultime job, with as few hours as possible, as easy as possible, working alone and with a high salary.

Organist could be a possibility, its only a few hours pr week I quess, yet its a fultime job.

Owner of an internet cafe. Those owners seems to sit and play counter strike all day long, while waiting for customers, which means you could just bring your music, compose or whatever.

Security guard. The ones who just sit on a chair all day.

In DK we have former criminals working for a store by standing outsite 100 meters away holding a sign all day. I think its because its illegal to leave a sign at a public place, or something like that.   

[ibanezmonster]

Hmmm... I might have a chance with one of these, but I need some advice here, if anyone knows (I'll also send that dude, John, an e-mail about this since he is extremely helpful, but I haven't seen him here lately).

4 software tester positions open (a position in another state, so who knows about this one)
http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?ipath=EXGOO&siteid=sep_simphire_engineer&Job_DID=J8C0MY620FZNJVTQ33J


This one is in the same state, so it's within drivable distance. They don't require college degrees (just C++ knowledge). 
(i might actually have a chance with this one)
http://jobs.softwaretestingclub.com/?p=613

[ibanezmonster]

Such pessimism, Greg. There aren't many jobs available now and you should be thankful that you have one. Where do you work again? Lowe's? If you're having a problem in the position you're in, then why don't you ask your manager to transfer to another part of the store?

The only position in the store I would consider would be either truck unloader or overnight stocking. Truck unloaders don't work enough hours in the week, though (6-10 5 days a week is only 20 hours)- not enough money. Overnight stocking is something I will definitely have to find out about. If there is still a position open and it's enough hours, doing something like that might be able to hold me over because I'm guessing it would be bearable since you get to work alone mostly, and it's not out in the heat (which I do every day right now).

Maybe it IS his fault. Maybe he projects his negative attitude there like he does here a lot. Maybe they don't want to hire someone who is so full of negative waves, figuring he is the sort of person who will wander in with an AR15 one day when he is pissed off at someone there. Also, maybe it IS his fault that he can't find something better, and for some of those same reasons. You're right, jobs are tight. No one wants to take a chance on hiring someone and making an investment in their training and all, and then they turn off to be an asshole that only makes trouble or wants special treatment all the time (I will only work here if you provide women who will talk to me and are pretty, and smart, but not TOO smart... ).

I say this as an employer. I know I sure as hell am not going to waste my precious few openings on someone who I'm not sure even wants the job, and who has serious attitude issues. Or at least, certainly seems to have. Appearance IS reality.

Except that if I really were that negative towards other people, I wouldn't have a job. I usually act positive (or try to) when it comes to dealing with the general public. But you can put on a mask all day and fool everyone. If I told people I work with how I really feel, I'm pretty sure they'd be shocked (I've told some that I hate my job, but they have no idea to what extent).

Oh, I think he has a valid point too, but I just think sometimes he complains about things that are out of his control.

Well, yes, I complain because things are out of my control. Otherwise, if this were all in my control, this thread wouldn't even exist.

but the reality of the matter is simple: times are extremely tough right now in the United States. He has a job right now and I'm glad he does. He's very fortunate. There are people getting out of college right now that can barely get jobs at MacDonald's.

I wish I could be like this. This just doesn't work when by the time you come home, your mind is just completely broken down. The mundaneness gets to you and you can't even think straight- all you feel like doing is sleeping.
(5 more days to go in my 8 days straight- yeah!) 


Well, I'll just e-mail John. If I can get that software testing job, this will be over with.

[Gurn Blanston]

Except that if I really were that negative towards other people, I wouldn't have a job. I usually act positive (or try to) when it comes to dealing with the general public. But you can put on a mask all day and fool everyone. If I told people I work with how I really feel, I'm pretty sure they'd be shocked (I've told some that I hate my job, but they have no idea to what extent).

You can fool some of the people some of the time, etc... You say that "(else) I wouldn't have a job", but dude, you don't have the job you want, and can't seem to get it. That should be telling you something. When it isn't because of qualifications, and it isn't because they don't want someone, then you can only assume it is because you didn't really make the impression that you wanted to make, and thought you made. Professional HR people can sniff out masqueraders in a heartbeat. If the job mandates that you actually be able to enjoy dealing with people and like it, then you ain't gonna get it.

[Mirror Image]

Maybe it IS his fault. Maybe he projects his negative attitude there like he does here a lot. Maybe they don't want to hire someone who is so full of negative waves, figuring he is the sort of person who will wander in with an AR15 one day when he is pissed off at someone there. Also, maybe it IS his fault that he can't find something better, and for some of those same reasons. You're right, jobs are tight. No one wants to take a chance on hiring someone and making an investment in their training and all, and then they turn off to be an asshole that only makes trouble or wants special treatment all the time (I will only work here if you provide women who will talk to me and are pretty, and smart, but not TOO smart... ).

I say this as an employer. I know I sure as hell am not going to waste my precious few openings on someone who I'm not sure even wants the job, and who has serious attitude issues. Or at least, certainly seems to have. Appearance IS reality.

Good point, Gurn. I think Greg, as demonstrated by this thread and many of the others, is somebody I wouldn't want to hire either if I was an employer. He simply complains too much and about trivial things. There's no telling how this attitude is working right now with his current employer.

So, yes, maybe it is HIS fault.

[ibanezmonster]

I'm not sure what you're talking about...
out of all of the applications I've sent out over the last few months, none of them have been face-to-face because they aren't in my area (there are no good jobs in my area). None of them are even jobs that require you to deal with the general public. I actually like being around coworkers, because I don't have to put on a mask. When you deal with general public, that's the requirement. I also get along fine with all of my managers (they are coworkers, after all).


I walked in today and luckily was able to catch the HR manager and asked her about the details of the stocking position and told her to tell me if any positions open up. 4am-9am, 5 days a week, and they stay longer if there is a truck. For now, that would be great. I'll check soon whether the two other Lowe's stores within driving distance have any morning stocking positions open.

[ibanezmonster]

Alright, John e-mailed me with tips for sending in a resume for that job, since he is the expert.
I'm not sure being a programmer and testing your own software qualifies for "experience,"  but nevertheless, he has some great tips worth trying. 

[eyeresist]

Good point, Gurn. I think Greg, as demonstrated by this thread and many of the others, is somebody I wouldn't want to hire either if I was an employer. He simply complains too much and about trivial things.

To be fair, this is the thread for such things. And I sympathise with not wanting to constantly deal with the public for a living. It really takes a certain kind of person to enjoy that kind of work.