Identify the pianist... ... ... kind of

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A different view on the "Identify this" idea.



Whose hands are this two?


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Drasko


orbital

Quote from: Manuel on June 26, 2007, 01:18:45 PM
No1

The flat palm and finger positioning point to Horowitz for me, except that his fingers normally look longer.

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MishaK

No.1 looks like it could be Arrau. No.2 is definitely Martha. No.3 the curled little finger just looks painful. Don't know who that is.

Black Knight

I immediately thought of Horowitz, when I saw the first one, but the hands seem kind of small on the picture... The second one is Argerich.

Bonehelm


sidoze

third one reminds me of Pogorelich.

First is not Horowitz. Cant quite put a name to it though  :-\

MishaK

Quote from: sidoze on June 26, 2007, 01:50:12 PM
third one reminds me of Pogorelich.

Pogorelich isn't old enough for his hands to look like that.

MishaK

Could No.3 be Gould? The wrists below the keyboard points to his style of seating.

BachQ

1. Arrau or Freire
2. Argerich
3. Berman

Bonehelm

Changed my mind, 1st could also be Arrau  :)

Bunny

First photo looks like Horowitz to me.  The shape of the fingers and the handkerchief with the points showing points to him.  I can tell you it's not Arrau, the shape of the hands is all wrong.

Second is Argerich.  I think there was a Youtube video of her in that dress.  Or at least I remember seeing her in a tomato red dress - I think.  Or maybe it was someone else...  Okay, final answer, Argerich.  Alicia de Larrocha would never wear something that color.  It's Argentinian firecracker red. ;D

I think the third photo might be of Richard Goode.  When I saw him at Carnegie Hall, I remember noting that his wrist was held below the keyboard and that his fingers were curled over the keys.  I know it's not Glenn Gould.  I've seen enough photos of him at the keyboard to say that he did not curl his fingers over the keys that way.  Barenboim has similarly shaped hands, but his position is more open than in this picture.



Bunny

Quote from: sidoze on June 26, 2007, 01:50:12 PM
third one reminds me of Pogorelich.

First is not Horowitz. Cant quite put a name to it though  :-\

I will swear those are Horowitz's hands.  The 4th finger is his and no one else's. ;)

Also, the almost flat position over the keys is the way I remember seeing him play.

m_gigena

Quote from: Bunny on June 26, 2007, 04:26:33 PM
Second is Argerich.  I think there was a Youtube video of her in that dress.  Or at least I remember seeing her in a tomato red dress - I think.  Or maybe it was someone else...  Okay, final answer, Argerich.  Alicia de Larrocha would never wear something that color.  It's Argentinian firecracker red. ;D

I just realised I should have cut the red dress. I think she wears a similar one in the "Schumann concerto + Liszt Funerailles" broadcast.

So yes, Nº 2 is Argerich.

MishaK

Quote from: Bunny on June 26, 2007, 04:26:33 PM
I think the third photo might be of Richard Goode.  When I saw him at Carnegie Hall, I remember noting that his wrist was held below the keyboard and that his fingers were curled over the keys.  I know it's not Glenn Gould.  I've seen enough photos of him at the keyboard to say that he did not curl his fingers over the keys that way.  Barenboim has similarly shaped hands, but his position is more open than in this picture.

Barenboim also (like Rubinstein) sits really high on his bench, so you'd never see his wrists below the keyboard like this. He also doesn't curl his 5th finger like that.

Bunny

Quote from: Manuel on June 26, 2007, 04:30:10 PM
I just realised I should have cut the red dress. I think she wears a similar one in the "Schumann concerto + Liszt Funerailles" broadcast.

So yes, Nº 2 is Argerich.

Seriously, do you think anyone other than the females around here even would remember the dress?  Why not also cut out the handkerchief in Horowitz's breast pocket?  Those white points are a dead giveaway to tails -- and he always performed in tails.

Bunny

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Quote from: O Mensch on June 26, 2007, 04:32:06 PM
Barenboim also (like Rubinstein) sits really high on his bench, so you'd never see his wrists below the keyboard like this. He also doesn't curl his 5th finger like that.

I agree, but his hands are similar in that they have short fingers rather than the long tapering ones associated with great pianists.  As I noted, and you also noted, his position is more open.  The hand in this picture is held in a very closed position, and the only person I've ever seen play with a closed hand like that is Goode.  That doesn't make it Goode; there must be many other pianists who use such a position, but I haven't seen them play.

Wait, something is niggling my memory.  Is it Brendel?  Hmmm...

No, not Brendel, but there is something niggling at the back of my mind.  No, I'll stick with Goode because I really can't imagine it's anyone else.

m_gigena

Quote from: Bunny on June 26, 2007, 04:34:28 PM
Why not also cut out the handkerchief in Horowitz's breast pocket?  Those white points are a dead giveaway to tails

Sure?