GMG Listening Group — Beethoven Symphony № 6 :: 12-18 June 2011

[karlhenning]

Coming soon.

[zamyrabyrd]

Leonard Bernstein wrote at length on the repetition of motives (and measures) in his Norton lectures, compiled in the "Unanswered Question". This might be a resource.  I'm interested in knowing what others think who have read this particular lecture.

ZB

[mc ukrneal]

Perhaps you could explain what the purpose of this is? Or, you could link to the post that explains it elsewhere?

[Gurn Blanston]

Perhaps you could explain what the purpose of this is? Or, you could link to the post that explains it elsewhere?

Neal,
This is merely an informal discussion group which concentrates on a particular work for a relatively short period of time. Usually about 2 weeks will cover the average attention span. Although it hasn't been an active feature since you've been here (not blaming you, mind you, but... ) we began this years ago and more or less carried it on for a long time. The moderator of the discussion, in this case Karl, will open with some sort of statement. Some moderators are very technical and tend to elicit technical responses, while others are more general and the discussion is more varied. Both are interesting. In any case, the moderator periodically sums up the consensus ideas, perhaps comment on them, and then proceed to a new aspect that he or she may have considered. If the group is good (many of them are) then it will be a good time had by all, and hopefully open some new ideas for listening.

Attendance is optional, although records are kept...

[Mn Dave]

 

[mc ukrneal]

Neal,
This is merely an informal discussion group which concentrates on a particular work for a relatively short period of time. Usually about 2 weeks will cover the average attention span. Although it hasn't been an active feature since you've been here (not blaming you, mind you, but... ) we began this years ago and more or less carried it on for a long time. The moderator of the discussion, in this case Karl, will open with some sort of statement. Some moderators are very technical and tend to elicit technical responses, while others are more general and the discussion is more varied. Both are interesting. In any case, the moderator periodically sums up the consensus ideas, perhaps comment on them, and then proceed to a new aspect that he or she may have considered. If the group is good (many of them are) then it will be a good time had by all, and hopefully open some new ideas for listening.

Attendance is optional, although records are kept...

I wasn't trying to cause trouble, just understand how one can participate in the thread! I would suggest that for every such thread we include such an explantion or a link to your explanation (or other one) would be useful to those of us who 1) Are new to the site, or 2) Have not participated before. Sorry if my tone seemed abrupt or wayward. I was just seeking enlightenment.

Besides, now I am looking forward to this going on my PERMANENT record. 

[karlhenning]

No trouble perceived, Neal. Your point is well took!

[Mn Dave]

I like 5, 7 & 9 best but for Karl I will listen to 6.  0:)

[karlhenning]

Dave, you're a chum!

[karlhenning]

For them what may find it useful, a score can be downloaded at IMSLP. (Mind you don't download the recorder ensemble version unintentionally. Some, of course, may actually intend to . . . .)

[karlhenning]

Leonard Bernstein wrote at length on the repetition of motives (and measures) in his Norton lectures, compiled in the "Unanswered Question". This might be a resource.  I'm interested in knowing what others think who have read this particular lecture.

ZB

ZB, I have read that one, but it was decades ago . . . I don't know that I still have that book at home. Must be easy to scare it up at the BPL, though . . . .

[Palmetto]

Perhaps you could explain what the purpose of this is? Or, you could link to the post that explains it elsewhere?

I've only participated in the most recent Stravinsky one.  I treated it like a weekly book club, where everyone reads the same book (hopefully before the next meeting!) and then gathers (at the local brew pub) to discuss it.  As a newbie, I'm definitely asking more questions than contributing informed insights, but hopefully that will change over time.  And hey, it IS a newbie forum 

[Brahmsian]

I've only participated in the most recent Stravinsky one.  I treated it like a weekly book club, where everyone reads the same book (hopefully before the next meeting!) and then gathers (at the local brew pub) to discuss it.  As a newbie, I'm definitely asking more questions than contributing informed insights, but hopefully that will change over time.  And hey, it IS a newbie forum 

Hi Palmetto, did you receive my PM?

[Coco]

I'm in, but I think the only recording I have is Norrington/London Classical Players. What should I look for at the library?

And how about for the next Listening Group session: Nono's Il canto sospeso?

[Palmetto]

Hi Palmetto, did you receive my PM?

Can I assume from your question that you didn't get my reply?  I sent it as a reply to the e-mail I received in my personal e-mail account.  If you didn't get it, let me know and I'll resend.  In short, the answer was "Sure!"

[Palmetto]

I'm in, but I think the only recording I have is Norrington/London Classical Players. What should I look for at the library?

And how about for the next Listening Group session: Nono's Il canto sospeso?

At the risk of repeating my earlier copyright-violating mistake, I pulled it from here:

http://musopen.org/music/piece/111

Quoting their FAQ, "Musopen's goal is to be the largest online repository of music in the public domain." so I -assume- I'm not stepping on any legal toes this time.  If the local PTBs have to smack me yet again, I promise to never link to another site from here again.  Until then, free membership provides 5 downloads daily, just enough to cover the 6th.

July's piece has already been selected ( http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,18506.0.html ); maybe you can push for August?

[Gurn Blanston]

At the risk of repeating my earlier copyright-violating mistake, I pulled it from here:

http://musopen.org/music/piece/111

Quoting their FAQ, "Musopen's goal is to be the largest online repository of music in the public domain." so I -assume- I'm not stepping on any legal toes this time.  If the local PTBs have to smack me yet again, I promise to never link to another site from here again.  Until then, free membership provides 5 downloads daily, just enough to cover the 6th.

July's piece has already been selected ( http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,18506.0.html ); maybe you can push for August?

No, this is just fine. Brilliant!

[karlhenning]

July's piece has already been selected ( http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,18506.0.html ); maybe you can push for August?

Of course, we could do another piece in June. Why not?

[Palmetto]

No, this is just fine. Brilliant!

That's me; King of the Legal Freebie Downloads.  Of course, that approach doesn't leave much room for choice of performers.  To quote another musical genre, "Whadda ya want for nothin'; rubber biscuits???"

[Gurn Blanston]

That's me; King of the Legal Freebie Downloads.  Of course, that approach doesn't leave much room for choice of performers.  To quote another musical genre, "Whadda ya want for nothin'; rubber biscuits???"

  That's OK. I got the link this morning from Karl for the score too. You heard one 6th, you've heard 'em all...

Has there been any Haydn in your life?