Brookshire criticizes HIP Bach?

[Luke]

Two points

1) I can't really relate at all to the description of strict, rigid HIP as alluded to in the article quoted in the OP. If that is really what Brookshire said, then he's either misguided or looking for a controversy or an 'angle'

2) I can't take seriously anyone who calls their ensemble the Brandenburg All-Stars! It'll be the Goldberg Globetrotters next...

[Gurn Blanston]

Two points

1) I can't really relate at all to the description of strict, rigid HIP as alluded to in the article quoted in the OP. If that is really what Brookshire said, then he's either misguided or looking for a controversy or an 'angle'

2) I can't take seriously anyone who calls their ensemble the Brandenburg All-Stars! It'll be the Goldberg Globetrotters next...

Right again, Luke. That was why I never weighed in here; I have thousands of so-called HIP CD's, and am still at a loss as to what he was talking about. Of course, I have seen similar things posted here over the years, but in the event they always seemed to turn into the sort of thing that challenged the credibility of the poster.

Of course, I haven't heard anything yet from that new cantata group, Luke's Leipzig Omphaloskeptic Choir...

[DavidW]

I like that Goldberg Globetrotters!

I have one: the Harmonious Blacksmiths!  They love performing Handel...

[Luke]

But I hated Goldberg Globetrotters! It was the corniest I could come up with! BTW what I particularly 'liked' about Brookshire's 'All-Stars' was that I hadn't heard of any of them...

Calling Cato ...

Possibly just the weeniest bit OT, but - loving the new avatar, Leon! What an album that is! My favourite album for driving in the south of France with my kids - they sing the whole thing from beginning to end. And HIP, too, in its own way (just trying to wrench back on topic somehow)

[Marc]

I hadn't realized until now that WWII was an invention of Classical music.



Calling Cato ...

(bl[censored] language )

[DavidW]

I hadn't realized until now that WWII was an invention of Classical music.



Calling Cato ...

Hitler listened to too much Wagner, he went mad and well the rest is history!

[Superhorn]

   For the last time, I'm NOT "anti-hip"!  I'm anti-dogmatism and pedantry.  In fact, I've enjoyed quite a few
   HIP recordings, and have a number of them myself in my collection. 
   I never said that ALL or even most HIP recordings and performances I've heard are lousy. 
   If I hear a period instrument performance live or recorded, and it's excellent, I acknowledge its excellence
   gladly. But  some of them have been guilty of throwing the baby out with the bathwater in my opinion.
   If the emepror(or empress) has no clothes, I don't mince words about it.
   And I'm much more tolerant and accepting of modern instrument performances,even ones that don't
  do everything correctly in terms of performance practice. I've heard so many HIP recordigns that it's actually refreshing
  to come back to the "politically incorrect" performances on modern instruments,even the ones which don't
  conform to "correct performance practice". 
  The other day, I was listening to the old Philips set of the Brandenburgs with I Musici  which I took out of my local library, and I enjoyed it very much.
  So what if it isn't HIP? Who cares.? 
   As Richard taruskin has so wisely stated, "Instruments don't make music; people do !"  By this he meansd that
   merely using period instruments and dutifully going through the motions of what is currently believed to be correct perfromance practice aren't enough, and don't guarantee excellence in performance.

[eyeresist]

Wow! This link takes one a long way from Art of the Fugue!

Congratulations. I think you are the first person ever to follow a link of mine.

Hitler listened to too much Wagner, he went mad and well the rest is history!

Actually, Hitler's favourite composer was Bruckner. As a Bruckner fan myself, some part of me takes a perverse pride in that, which I suppose makes me a terrible person.

[DavidW]

Actually, Hitler's favourite composer was Bruckner. As a Bruckner fan myself, some part of me takes a perverse pride in that, which I suppose makes me a terrible person.

Yeah but nobody goes mad from too much Bruckner!   Wait... or do they?  Sarge??

[eyeresist]

I think it's the singing that does it, so you should generally be safe with Bruckner.