Name that piece! The game

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J.Z. Herrenberg

Is it Lloyd Webber père (William)?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Lethevich

Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on May 31, 2011, 12:32:21 PM
Is it Lloyd Webber père (William)?

A really fascinating guess - I haven't heard a note from the chap, however. This composer is of an older generation, a late Romantic from the turn of the century. I picked the piece because I hope it has enough hints in the orchestration and also the manner of the main melody to perhaps narrow it down to one country or region - it is steeped in a certain tradition, although music of this type definitely seems to have influenced later composers - especially film music writers.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: klingsor on May 31, 2011, 12:27:31 PM
:D To be fair, I never wrote the name Bernard Herrmann, so the 'prize' should not go to me. I was trying to come up with a UK composer.

Ah...I misunderstood our conversation then. So the prize belongs solely to Sara  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on May 31, 2011, 12:40:12 PM
A really fascinating guess - I haven't heard a note from the chap, however. This composer is of an older generation, a late Romantic from the turn of the century. I picked the piece because I hope it has enough hints in the orchestration and also the manner of the main melody to perhaps narrow it down to one country or region - it is steeped in a certain tradition, although music of this type definitely seems to have influenced later composers - especially film music writers.


The music has many familiar stylistic elements. I thought of a Russian composer, too (Rachmaninov-like use of a sort of Dies Irae theme earlier on). And at the end he sounds like Howard Shore's granddad!
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Lethevich

Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on May 31, 2011, 12:45:51 PM
a sort of Dies Irae theme earlier on

Your powers are impressive! The piece is Catholic in inspiration, rather than Russian or orthodox - it is a triptych, each movement loosley inspired by the opening lines of various famous motet subjects, but the work is a somewhat wooly Romantic conception grasping for something bigger. It has minor elements of Medievalism to it, although musically that doesn't show.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Catholic, eh? Then he could be French, Polish... Ropartz?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Lethevich

French fo' sho' - he was more of a self-consciously central figure than Ropartz, who tried his best to remain relevant to his small corner of the country. He was also not a particularly religious figure, but the public popularity (at the time) for the piece, clearly looking for more religious music in the vein of Franck, motivated him to write a few other similar works.

Now it's gotten this close, anybody trying for specific pieces (as there can only be 15 or so major composers to choose from) will get magical bonus points of some intangible nature.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

J.Z. Herrenberg

#107
D'Indy?


Florent Schmitt, Psaume?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Lethevich

Not so influenced by impressionism or Wagnerian models.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Lethevich

Closer stylistically to Schmitt than D'Indy, but less exotic. Schmitt's psalm (from what I recall of it) has perhaps as much in common with Zemlinsky's view of religion, this composer slightly looks back to the straightness of Franck. I think without a longer (or full movement) excerpt this won't be reasonably guessable, so I'll accept a bit of a list just to finish this off :)
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Lethevich

Actually, no list needed. If somebody snipes it from you I'd have to give an equal victory anyway ;)

My clip (no.6) from was the first track of this disc:

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The piece is named L'an mil (The Year 1000), and is an attempted evocation of the hopes and fears of the time. It's a nicely recorded disc of rewarding repertoire.

Johan's turn!
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

J.Z. Herrenberg

A-ha! Well, I came close...


Okay, I'll prepare something...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on May 31, 2011, 01:38:25 PM
Actually, no list needed. If somebody snipes it from you I'd have to give an equal victory anyway ;)

My clip (no.6) from was the first track of this disc:

.[asin]B000NJM56U[/asin]

The piece is named L'an mil (The Year 1000), and is an attempted evocation of the hopes and fears of the time. It's a nicely recorded disc of rewarding repertoire.

Johan's turn!


Argghhh....you gave it away to soon! I was just listening to that at JPC and was about to guess. Really, I was!

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Sergeant Rock

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 31, 2011, 01:46:03 PM
No, I was too late  :(


Nonsense, you would have guessed rightly. Though my fumbling about was helpful.  ;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Lethevich

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 31, 2011, 01:43:26 PM
Argghhh....you gave it away to soon!

;D I was thinking exactly the same - I should learn when to stop giving hints like you did ;D
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on May 31, 2011, 01:48:09 PM

Nonsense, you would have guessed rightly. Though my fumbling about was helpful.  ;D

It was. Without all the clues I wouldn't have had a clue  ;D  I don't know the music. But looking through a list of late Romantic composers, I noticed Pierne and remembered Lethe had talked about him several times here in the past. Looking at his list of works I saw Les Cathedrales which fit with the religion clue. That led me to the CD with L'An Mil.
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato