Name that piece! The game

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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on May 31, 2011, 02:05:09 PM
Here is my riddle...

I'm gonna let my brain work on it while I sleep. Good night, all.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Cato

Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on May 31, 2011, 02:05:09 PM
Here is my riddle...


http://www.4shared.com/audio/mNBnr-xB/Mystery_music.html

I have never heard the work, but given that you are a Brian afficionado, and that I think I hear a Germanic language of some sort, is it part of his Fourth Symphony? 
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Cato on May 31, 2011, 06:03:47 PM
I have never heard the work, but given that you are a Brian afficionado, and that I think I hear a Germanic language of some sort, is it part of his Fourth Symphony?

Your logic is impeccable, but - no, it isn't Brian (would be too obvious, too!) His Fourth Symphony is a much darker and grimmer affair...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Lethevich

I am so deaf with choral music :) The two works I have heard recently which may somewhat inhabit this sound world are:

Vaughan Williams - Dona nobis pacem (this sounds more festive)
Delius - Songs of Farewell (it sounds more gentle than these I think)

Is that a harp at the start or are my ears rebelling against this challenge?
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

J.Z. Herrenberg

It is an extremely luscious and sensual score. So harps do figure. It's neither Delius nor RVW, btw.  But it is strikingly similar to ol' Frederick and that's why I like it a lot. The composer was a younger contemporary...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Lethevich

Following the not entirely unreasonable assumption that the composer is from Britain, two composers of that period seem to potentially fit the bill for writing rather exotic music.

I discount Bantock because the only recording of his Omar Kháyyám and the Hyperion series sound more modern than the sample recording, and I don't know his other choral music (or even whether it's worth knowing).

Then Holst pops his head forward - perhaps "Cloud Messenger"?
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Nope... I suggest you listen to the language... And the sound of the sample isn't representative. The CD will sound much much better (don't have it yet. I heard this work on the radio, and that's where this sample comes from).
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

klingsor

I have trouble making out the language. Maybe you can clue me in?

J.Z. Herrenberg

Cato said Germanic. He was right. Drop the ic and you know the language...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

klingsor

It's not The Book of the Seven Seals by Franz Schmidt is it?

J.Z. Herrenberg

No. But the nationality of the composer is identical.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Cato

I have not heard all of Zemlinsky's choral works or operas, but the work has an aroma that could have emanated from his nib.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Lethevich

Zemlinsky was the one I was looking towards after the language correction, but I don't recall a section like that in his Lyric Symphony (the soloist was quite present throughout), and I gave one of the psalms a listen and it was in a different manner. My total deafness when it comes to deciphering sung texts definitely doesn't help :)
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Opus106

Quote from: Leon on June 01, 2011, 06:58:25 AM
I was thinking Pfitzner specifically, Palestrina, but since I have not heard that work, and don't  know if it even has the kind of choral writing represented in the snippet, I am reluctant to make a formal guess.

Don't. Pfitzner was German. :)

I'm going to throw out a name: Egon Wellesz.

And due to little Wiki'ing, I'm now listening to his Prosperos Beschwörungen on YouTube.
Regards,
Navneeth

J.Z. Herrenberg

No Zemlinsky, no Pfitzner, no Wellesz. But the composer was an unashamed late Romantic until his dying day. This work is from 1911.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Leon on June 01, 2011, 06:58:25 AM
I was thinking Pfitzner specifically, Palestrina, but since I have not heard that work, and don't  know if it even has the kind of choral writing represented in the snippet, I am reluctant to make a formal guess.

Palestrina does employ a boy's choir. But as 106 pointed out, he was German.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on June 01, 2011, 07:05:14 AM
No Zemlinsky, no Pfitzner, no Wellesz. But the composer was an unashamed late Romantic until his dying day...

And what day was that?  ;D
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 01, 2011, 07:08:43 AM
And what day was that?  ;D


Around the time of the Beatles' second tour of America.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

karlhenning