Name that piece! The game

[Amfortas]

STWPD.mp3 (350.61 kB - downloaded 9 times.)

I rather like Listener's second version of his clip, but I can't identify it

[mszczuj]

I rather like Listener's second version of his clip, but I can't identify it

I suspect I heard it but really don't know where look for it. Satie? Prokfiev?

[listener]

Bump for new^page
There is a body (suitable for Oct.31 posting, I thought), but no bagpipes.  Surfing in the Virgin Islands? - Bull!!!!
The distance hidden in the title is 1472 miles or 2368.45 Kilometers.
The score includes a biscuit tin(filled with glass fragments)/football rattle/BD/4metal scaffold tubes and 2hammers
One of those composers who are easy to mis-file.

[mszczuj]

Bump for new^page
There is a body (suitable for Oct.31 posting, I thought), but no bagpipes.  Surfing in the Virgin Islands? - Bull!!!!
The distance hidden in the title is 1472 miles or 2368.45 Kilometers.
The score includes a biscuit tin(filled with glass fragments)/football rattle/BD/4metal scaffold tubes and 2hammers

No, I was wrong I hadn't heard it. But as it is googlable I know what it is now.

[listener]

Time to end this one:
Perter Maxwell Davies Fantasy on John Bull's St. Thomas WakeThe distance in the clue is from St.Thomas (Virgin Islands for the surfing reference) to Wake Forest.  The bagpipe reference is to PMD's An Orkney Sunrise, with Bagpipes.
The composer gets shelved in the M--'s or D--'s - rather like trying to find Vaughn Williams but finding him with Grace and John.

current outstanding one from mszcuj:
Nothing is going on so what do you think about this:

http://www.4shared.com/audio/ma-h1eha/Track.html

[Amfortas]

Nothing is going on so what do you think about this:

http://www.4shared.com/audio/ma-h1eha/Track.html

Sounds like Schumann to me,  but not a piece that I know

[mszczuj]

Sounds like Schumann to me,  but not a piece that I know

Not Schumann, but really close.

[listener]

I thought for a moment Liszt, but it's surely not.  Sound might be Mendelssohn?

[Grazioso]

I thought for a moment Liszt, but it's surely not.  Sound might be Mendelssohn?

Definitely sounds more along the Mendelssohn/Schumann axis. I wonder if it's one of them or an obscurity I can hunt for...

[mszczuj]

Definitely sounds more along the Mendelssohn/Schumann axis. I wonder if it's one of them or an obscurity I can hunt for...

I would bet you have it in your collection.

[Amfortas]

Is this one of those Berlioz overtures? They never sound like anything to me

[Brian]

Is this one of those Berlioz overtures? They never sound like anything to me

Definitely not! Also, I'm scandalized.

It sounds like a vaguely-original Germanic of the period: Raff, Rufinatscha, Spohr, Farrenc maybe.

[mszczuj]

Best shots so far are:  Mendelssohn, Schumann, Liszt, Rufinatscha  - thiis is exactly the same generation.

But the reason I decided to make this clip is that I had found it very similar - for my ear - to the music of the very popular composer of the next generation (and in some sense friend of the mystery composer). I was curious if somebody would notice this resemblance or if it was only my impression.

[Amfortas]

Best shots so far are:  Mendelssohn, Schumann, Liszt, Rufinatscha  - thiis is exactly the same generation.

But the reason I decided to make this clip is that I had found it very similar - for my ear - to the music of the very popular composer of the next generation (and in some sense friend of the mystery composer). I was curious if somebody would notice this resemblance or if it was only my impression.

It really sounds very much like Schumann to me. So is it an early, seldom performed work by a major composer of the early 20th C?

[mszczuj]

It really sounds very much like Schumann to me. So is it an early, seldom performed work by a major composer of the early 20th C?

No, no. This is contemporary of Schumann. They met several times. His symphonies are sometimes regarded the missing link between symphonies of Schumann and symphonies of the famous composer of the very next generation who was a friend of our composer. And yes, this is the fragment of one of these symphonies.

[mszczuj]

He wrote piano and some violin music, string quartets, piano trios (one of them was especially highly appreciated), overtures, serenades, some concert works (the only exact concerto is probably now his most popular work) and some - probably - less important vocal music.

[Brian]

Well, I would guess based on that that the composer is Albert Dietrich, for I know Brahms kept Dietrich's symphonies in his library, and that Dietrich's piano trio was once thought to be Brahms'. But alas, it cannot be, for Dietrich wrote multiple concertos...

Ferdinand David perhaps? No...

[mszczuj]

Well, I would guess based on that that the composer is Albert Dietrich, for I know Brahms kept Dietrich's symphonies in his library, and that Dietrich's piano trio was once thought to be Brahms'. But alas, it cannot be, for Dietrich wrote multiple concertos...

Dietriech is rather the next generation - the generation of Brahms.

But there are some similiiarites.

For example - in the field of symphony they worked for the same record label.

And there is other even more tight connection of this kind between them.

[listener]

My book on Schumann is... not at hand, so from other sources let's start weeding them out.   Carl Reinecke? (but I see 3 concertos - harp, violin, piano.)

[mszczuj]

Dietriech is rather the next generation - the generation of Brahms.

But there are some similarities.

For example - in the field of symphony they worked for the same record label.

And there is other even more tight connection of this kind between them.

What I mean?

If you compare several times the Amazon Best Sellers Ranks of the most popular record which contains Dietrich music and of the most popular record which contains mystery composer's music you will find that distance between them never changes!