Clichés

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Scion7

"Baby, you're the greatest, you made me feel like a woman for the first time!"

I get SO tired of hearing that.  Sigh.

    :P
Saint-Saëns, who predicted to Charles Lecocq in 1901: 'That fellow Ravel seems to me to be destined for a serious future.'

The Six

Quote from: Scion7 on April 09, 2012, 04:02:07 PM
"Baby, you're the greatest, you made me feel like a woman for the first time!"

I get SO tired of hearing that.  Sigh.

    :P

Then stop watching so much Showtime After Dark!

eyeresist

Quote from: karlhenning on April 09, 2012, 08:19:08 AM
The horridly overused clichés for new music are accessible, and its opposite, challenging.

"Advanced". It's not physics, people!

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Russian musicians: soulful
American musicians: brash
Italian musicians: colorful
Asian musicians: robotic
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Karl Henning

Quote from: Velimir on April 12, 2012, 04:26:32 AM
American musicians: brash

Don't forget: American Maverick !!!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ten thumbs

I'm passionate about clichés!
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

ibanezmonster

Quote from: karlhenning on April 12, 2012, 01:26:47 PM
Have a nice day!
Hi, how are you?
Good. (real answer 80% of the time: I just want to go home and sleep, or: ugggghhhh)

(good is one syllable, though, so it's less annoying to repeat 50 times a day).

eyeresist

Quote from: Greg on April 12, 2012, 06:30:25 PMHi, how are you?
Good. (real answer 80% of the time: I just want to go home and sleep, or: ugggghhhh)

(good is one syllable, though, so it's less annoying to repeat 50 times a day).

It was many years before I realised that "How are you?" is usually not meant as a question.

Brian

Quote from: Velimir on April 12, 2012, 04:26:32 AM
Russian musicians: soulful
American musicians: brash
Italian musicians: colorful
Asian musicians: robotic

French musicians: sensitive
English musicians: fascinated by obscure works
German musicians: unflashy and/or arrogantly committed to being 'correct'
Dutch musicians: HIP

eyeresist

Quote from: Brian on April 12, 2012, 06:49:09 PMEnglish musicians: fascinated by obscure works

I.e. English works!

ibanezmonster

Quote from: eyeresist on April 12, 2012, 06:46:17 PM
It was many years before I realised that "How are you?" is usually not meant as a question.
Yeah, it's just a dumb way of making a greeting, just as in the Chinese 你好? No idea why certain cultures decided to make a question a greeting.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ten thumbs

Quote from: Greg on April 12, 2012, 07:25:16 PM
Yeah, it's just a dumb way of making a greeting, just as in the Chinese 你好? No idea why certain cultures decided to make a question a greeting.

No, it isn't dumb at all. It's an invitation to begin a conversation by talking of anything the respondent has been doing. Replying 'Good' or 'I'm fine' has the effect of killing any chance of conversing and it is those responses that are dumb. Unless of course you genuinely don't want to talk - although you are making it obvious.
A day may be a destiny; for life
Lives in but little—but that little teems
With some one chance, the balance of all time:
A look—a word—and we are wholly changed.

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Ten thumbs on April 14, 2012, 09:15:41 AM
No, it isn't dumb at all. It's an invitation to begin a conversation by talking of anything the respondent has been doing. Replying 'Good' or 'I'm fine' has the effect of killing any chance of conversing and it is those responses that are dumb. Unless of course you genuinely don't want to talk - although you are making it obvious.
Oh, it's dumb considering half the time it isn't intended to invite a conversation at all. When it genuinely is, that's okay, though.

Christo

... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Karl Henning

"A bad workman blames his tools."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

eyeresist

I think "How are you?" is an abbreviation of the old world custom of elaborate social pleasantries. In this context, as I understand it, when you meet someone you ask after their families by individual member, and also discuss the weather (it's not just Englanders!) before getting down to business. People who interact in this way would find the exchange of "How are you"s quite brusque.


Brian

Quote from: Christo on April 14, 2012, 03:26:11 PM
Haitink! :o

Kuijken(s), van Dael, Schroder, Leonhardt, van Asperen, Bruggen, van Doeselaar, ter Linden...
...and Immerseel is Flemish, which we all know is the same!

Opus106

Quote from: Brian on April 15, 2012, 05:56:07 PM
Kuijken(s)

The surname is Dutch, but the band of brothers that we all know and love hail from Belgium, so I guess you should group them with Immerseel.
Regards,
Navneeth