Is there anything more erotic than Scriabin?

Started by mikkeljs, June 14, 2011, 12:32:54 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

mikkeljs

I just came to think of this. Can anyone name a composer who wrote more erotic music than that of Scriabin, or equal to Scriabin?

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: mikkeljs on June 14, 2011, 12:32:54 PM
I just came to think of this. Can anyone name a composer who wrote more erotic music than that of Scriabin, or equal to Scriabin?

Uh....Wagner?  ;)
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

mikkeljs

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 14, 2011, 12:34:19 PM
Uh....Wagner?  ;)

Really?? Wagner is one of those composers I never discovered yet. I will have to find out.

Scarpia

Quote from: mikkeljs on June 14, 2011, 12:36:49 PM
Really?? Wagner is one of those composers I never discovered yet. I will have to find out.

:o  Never heard of Tristan and Isolde?


snyprrr

I would like to know exactly what constitutes 'erotic' music. I imagine lines snaking up and down, intertwining each other,... isn't this what Berg is known for? Then, I suppose, the 'Thrusting Sounds', and creaking lines under pressure. Ah, and the 'Tingles', I suppose endless trilling,... now that you mention it, I san see where the trilling would be kinda kinky, haha! :P :-* :P :-*

ok ok :-[

Marc

Quote from: mikkeljs on June 14, 2011, 12:32:54 PM
I just came to think of this. Can anyone name a composer who wrote more erotic music than that of Scriabin, or equal to Scriabin?

Mozart.

Bulldog

Quote from: Marc on June 14, 2011, 01:33:49 PM
Mozart.

I think Mozart's music is a little too delicate and pristine to come across as erotic.  Zemlinsky would get my vote.

Scarpia

Quote from: Bulldog on June 14, 2011, 01:37:24 PM
I think Mozart's music is a little too delicate and pristine to come across as erotic.  Zemlinsky would get my vote.

You haven't been seen in these parts recently, Mr. Bulldog!

DavidW

Welcome back! :)

On the other forum someone nominated a Mozart church sonata for most erotic work!! ;D ;D :D

Marc

Quote from: Bulldog on June 14, 2011, 01:37:24 PM
I think Mozart's music is a little too delicate and pristine to come across as erotic.  Zemlinsky would get my vote.

Welcome back, Don. :)

But, dear Bulldog of mine: you disappoint me. :'(
Eroticism can't be delicate or pristine?
Or at least 'a little' .... ?

Anyway, I prefer 18th century Erotica by far.

Concerning Wolfie: check out f.i. his Da Ponte opera's. Not to mention the many melting Andantes et al. They really inspire me to uhhh .... :P

lescamil

Erwin Schulhoff's Sonata Erotica. Google it or YouTube it. There is nothing more erotic than that.
Want to chat about classical music on IRC? Go to:

irc.psigenix.net
#concerthall

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,19772.0.html

-------------------------------------

Check out my YouTube page:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jre58591

cilgwyn

That's a difficult one! I used to think Bax's 'Winter Legends' was pretty temptestuos and sexually charged for a British work of it's kind. Bax sounds as if he's going off his trolley at times,almost as if he's getting so worked up he's on the verge of........ ahem...'whacking off!' I know he had various women in his life,including Harriet Cohen,and I get the feeling he's thinking more about her than any 'tales of the North',or maybe even that female he was supposed to have pursued to Russia? On the other hand,I was in my 20's when I was listening to the piece & I had a 'thing' for some girl & the fact that I had no hope of going out with her,and anyway her dad was the local hard man.and probably would have ripped my arms,legs and head off,(but hopefully not 'that' bit) probably had something to do with the effect the music had on me.
I still like the piece,but don't play it as much as I used to. I know one of the forum users here associates it with woolly mammoths,which I hasten to add,I was NOT thinking about!!!!!

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Marc on June 14, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
But, dear Bulldog of mine: you disappoint me. :'(
Eroticism can't be delicate or pristine?

Not when it's done right  :D ;)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Il Barone Scarpia on June 14, 2011, 01:43:11 PM
You haven't been seen in these parts recently, Mr. Bulldog!

Quote from: Marc on June 14, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
Welcome back, Don. :)

A rare canine sighting...excellent... Hope to see more of you.

Sarge

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Mirror Image

#15
What about Szymanowski or Ravel or Berg? I can just hear two people doing the deed behind a work by one of these composers. :D

Daverz

Quote from: mikkeljs on June 14, 2011, 12:32:54 PM
I just came to think of this. Can anyone name a composer who wrote more erotic music than that of Scriabin, or equal to Scriabin?

Szymanowski.  And certainly a better composer than Scriabin.

Bulldog

Quote from: Daverz on June 14, 2011, 04:33:51 PM
Szymanowski.  And certainly a better composer than Scriabin.

Only in your dreams. ;)

Bulldog

Quote from: Il Barone Scarpia on June 14, 2011, 01:43:11 PM
You haven't been seen in these parts recently, Mr. Bulldog!

Good to be back.  I took a vacation from the computer - just shut in down and waited a few weeks.  When I came back, I had over 200 e-mails, all of them garbage.

Luke

#19
The literal correct answer is the Schulhoff posted above. Musically speaking first place MUST surely go to Janacek's Diary of one Who Disappeared, and not merely because of its 'Erotic Interlude' for piano solo (in many ways the vocal parts are much more sensuously charged). For pure musical mimesis, John Adams Harmonium, the last movement, wins every time, though there are 'descriptions' of 'the act' in Strauss and Walton which are contenders

;D