5 Favourite Shostakovich Symphonies - poll

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What are your (can pick up to 5) favourite Shostakovich symphonies, currently?

1 in F minor, Op.10
2 in B major, Op.14
3 in E flat major, Op.20
4 in C minor, Op.43
5 in D minor, Op.47
6 in B minor, Op.54
7 in C major, Op.60 'Leningrad'
8 in C minor, Op.65
9 in E flat major, Op.70
10 in E minor, Op.93
11 in G minor, Op.103 'The Year 1905'
12 in D minor, Op.112 'The Year 1917 - To the memory of Lenin'
13 in B flat minor, Op.113 'Babi Yar'
14 - Op.135
15 in A major, Op.141

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Mirror Image on January 17, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
I think Symphony No. 12 is better than it's reputation. It's not the most impressive work by Shostakovich, but it's still a very good one I think. It really has some blistering sections that make me jump out of my seat.

Completely agree!

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on January 17, 2012, 11:13:09 AM
Shostakovich 4 = most Mahlerian of his symphonies ...so I'm surprised the Fourth isn't one of your favorites, Mad.

Sarge


Quote from: Mirror Image on January 17, 2012, 11:14:23 AM
I'm surprised to see that the 8th isn't in your list of favorites, Daniel. Does the bleak mood of the 8th keep you from enjoying it? I think it's one of Shosty's masterworks. From start to finish, I'm captivated by it.

Was so hard to decide.... and looking back on it now, I may change. no.4 is one I do not know as well as the others, so will have to give another listen another time. Remember being absolutely amazed by it the last time I heard it though... no.8 I absolutely love, the bleak mood making me love it even more if anything! Just so hard to choose... I love all of them!
At this current moment, now, I would probably pick no. 5, 8, 10, 11, 12. I'll listen to no.4 again soon, and it will probably end up 'overtaking' one of the others on my list.

What do you think of no.4, John?
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Mirror Image

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Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 17, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
Completely agree!

Was so hard to decide.... and looking back on it now, I may change. no.4 is one I do not know as well as the others, so will have to give another listen another time. Remember being absolutely amazed by it the last time I heard it though... no.8 I absolutely love, the bleak mood making me love it even more if anything! Just so hard to choose... I love all of them!
At this current moment, now, I would probably pick no. 5, 8, 10, 11, 12. I'll listen to no.4 again soon, and it will probably end up 'overtaking' one of the others on my list.

What do you think of no.4, John?

The 4th, at one point, was one of my favorites, but it's somewhat taken a backseat. I still like it a lot. It's a very complicated work with a fascinating structure. Sarge called this symphony the most Mahlerian of Shosty's symphonies and this is true in some respects, but I think the work is much more neurotic than anything Mahler composed. I still admire, and love, Rattle's performance on EMI (w/ the CBSO) which is one of the finest I've heard. The Jansons's 4th is also very fine. Like his 2nd and 3rd, the 4th is quite experimental in nature. Very complex work that I'm still confused by, but it does have some winning moments. I think it's just a mysterious sounding work and hearing the work that came after it is a bit of a shock. It's a fascinating symphony.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Mirror Image on January 17, 2012, 01:27:19 PM
. . . Sarge called this symphony [the Fourth] the most Mahlerian of Shosty's symphonies and this is true in some respects, but I think the work is much more neurotic than anything Mahler composed.

Now you see, I should have called the Op.43 more tightly structured than anything Mahler composed!  Of course, that is not necessarily at odds with your point . . . content-wise, there is a passage or two which I grant you.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mirror Image

Quote from: karlhenning on January 18, 2012, 02:13:18 AM
Now you see, I should have called the Op.43 more tightly structured than anything Mahler composed!  Of course, that is not necessarily at odds with your point . . . content-wise, there is a passage or two which I grant you.

Yes, even within it's madness, Shosty's 4th does have a structure. His music always is tightly structured and it has purpose.

eyeresist

Quote from: Mirror Image on January 17, 2012, 10:55:06 AMI've always liked Symphony No. 7 "Leningrad" but I've never liked it well enough to call it an absolute favorite.

I think I'd like 7 better if it was just the first movement :D

Karl Henning

Quote from: eyeresist on January 20, 2012, 02:08:45 AM
I think I'd like 7 better if it was just the first movement :D

Most curious!  For a long time now, I've been perfectly well convinced by the entire symphony — but there was a time, long gone since, when I only really liked the middle movements.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

PaulR

My favorite movement of the seventh, at least at this time, is the third.  Just a beautiful movement with the 2 distinct sections, with the first returning.  The whole symphony has been a favorite of mine for a while though.

TheGSMoeller

I wouldn't want to be without this recording, the final movement of the "Leningrad" is devastatingly powerful, Lenny may not be the ideal DSCH conductor and his tempos are certainly slower than most, but I haven't found a performance that conveys such emotion.
Also, if you like your low brass, and are familiar with Charles Vernon of the CSO, than the ending of #7 ought to be pleasing.



Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

PaulR

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on January 20, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
I wouldn't want to be without this recording, the final movement of the "Leningrad" is devastatingly powerful, Lenny may not be the ideal DSCH conductor and his tempos are certainly slower than most, but I haven't found a performance that conveys such emotion.
Also, if you like your low brass, and are familiar with Charles Vernon of the CSO, than the ending of #7 ought to be pleasing.



Possibly my favorite disc of DS's music.  Maybe.  At least of that work, yes.

Mirror Image

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on January 20, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
I wouldn't want to be without this recording, the final movement of the "Leningrad" is devastatingly powerful, Lenny may not be the ideal DSCH conductor and his tempos are certainly slower than most, but I haven't found a performance that conveys such emotion.
Also, if you like your low brass, and are familiar with Charles Vernon of the CSO, than the ending of #7 ought to be pleasing.




My favorite Lenningrad performance for sure. Not many conductors get this one right, but there's something to say for Bernstein's emotionalism here. I dig it! 8)

RebLem

1. 15th
2. 5th
3. 7th
4. 9th
5. 1st

If I could be allowed a 6th, it would be #11, and a 7th, #13.
"Don't drink and drive; you might spill it."--J. Eugene Baker, aka my late father.

Wanderer

Quote from: Mirror Image on February 22, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
My favorite Lenningrad performance for sure. Not many conductors get this one right, but there's something to say for Bernstein's emotionalism here. I dig it! 8)

My favourite Seventh, as well.

Brahmsian

Quote from: Brahmsian on July 21, 2011, 11:39:04 AM
In numerical order:  5, 8, 10, 11, 12

Mine has changed since I had originally voted.

Currently, in numerical order:  4, 5, 8, 10, 11

4th replacing 12th.  For awhile, I was addicted to the 12th.

Bumped due to Sargeant influence.  :D

Karl Henning

Quote from: ChamberNut on May 27, 2014, 08:23:05 AM
4th replacing 12th.  For awhile, I was addicted to the 12th.

Bumped due to Sargeant influence.  :D

Zowie, I know that can be a bit of a sea-change.

But it's the right thing, mon cher 8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

I voted for Opp. 43, 60, 65, 93 & 141.

But in a way, I wish I might have cast more votes . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Quote from: karlhenning on May 27, 2014, 08:25:56 AM
Zowie, I know that can be a bit of a sea-change.

But it's the right thing, mon cher 8)

;D  Well, it took me a really long time to enjoy and appreciate the 4th.  It has finally clicked in a big way.

Karl Henning

Quote from: ChamberNut on May 27, 2014, 08:28:31 AM
;D  Well, it took me a really long time to enjoy and appreciate the 4th.  It has finally clicked in a big way.

Hey, that was true of me!  It's just so enormous . . . I still remember (I'm not proud of it) my only take-away from the first listen was the inverse of Sollertinsky's, i.e., that all I recalled at the end of that first listen was the bits which reminded me of the Fifth.  So much material, and I rushed to judgement before I could possibly have digested it all . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on May 27, 2014, 08:28:06 AM
I voted for Opp. 43, 60, 65, 93 & 141.

But in a way, I wish I might have cast more votes . . . .

It pains me to have left out 1, 5 and 6. But I would not change my votes today. It would still be 4, 8, 9, 14 and 15.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

EigenUser

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 27, 2014, 08:36:02 AM
It pains me to have left out 1, 5 and 6. But I would not change my votes today. It would still be 4, 8, 9, 14 and 15.

Sarge
Yay! Another 9 fan.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".