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[Jo498]

If one wants to quote Genesis, the familiar Du would be correct, but André's word order was wrong. Sarge was sighted when that vid with the model pianist in the silver dress was posted. I don't know if this can be translated: You need bacon to catch mice. (Mit Speck fängt man Mäuse.)

[André]

Wo du bist? is how Kurwenal answers Tristan in Act III.

[Jo498]

That's not easy to explain. The only admissible word order for a direct questions "Where are you?" is "Wo bist du?" Tristan ask "Wo bin ich?" (Where am I?) and Kurwenal answering takes up this question, "Wo du bist?" and proceeds with his answer. But this is obviously not a real question asked but rather something like "(you ask), where you are?" Therefore it has the word order of a subclause which is a different from a direct question and almost always puts the verb at the end. It seems to be the same as in English in this particular case.

[André]

Thanks, Jo !

I guess syntax can be tricky in many languages depending on the context - formal or familiar.

In classic French, that question would be phrased thus: Où es-tu? In everyday language, the familiar 'tu' is often placed first or second, not third: T'es où? or Où t'es ? The t' is a contraction of the pronoun tu. Maybe you know the pop song by belgian singer Stromae, Papaoute, which is a play on words: « Papa, où t'es? » (Dad, where are you? It's about a boy raised without his father).

Of course when addressing someone formally, the syntax is never played with: Où êtes vous?

[Sergeant Rock]

I'm here just not very talkative lately. Got other things than music on my mind. Glad to see the "Baron" here again.

Sarge

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Thanks, Jo !

I guess syntax can be tricky in many languages depending on the context - formal or familiar.

In classic French, that question would be phrased thus: Où es-tu? In everyday language, the familiar 'tu' is often placed first or second, not third: T'es où? or Où t'es ? The t' is a contraction of the pronoun tu. Maybe you know the pop song by belgian singer Stromae, Papaoute, which is a play on words: « Papa, où t'es? » (Dad, where are you? It's about a boy raised without his father).

Of course when addressing someone formally, the syntax is never played with: Où êtes vous?

I didn't know that André.  Any idea when this started becoming common?

And hello Sarge!

PD

[Sergeant Rock]

And hello Sarge!

PD

Hey, PD

Sarge

[Papy Oli]

I'm here just not very talkative lately. Got other things than music on my mind.

Sarge

You take care, Sarge 

[Karl Henning]

You take care, Sarge 

A very warm + 1

[JBS]

I'm here just not very talkative lately. Got other things than music on my mind. Glad to see the "Baron" here again.

Sarge

Stay safe and well.

[André]

I didn't know that André.  Any idea when this started becoming common?

And hello Sarge!

PD

Probably for centuries. If you check the glossary in the Gallimard edition of Maupassant's Contes normands, you'll find all kinds of such language colloquialisms. Also, check on YT, there are clips on the subject. It's the kind of things textbooks and courses never tell you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5i03JEQ8L8

Excellent short video on common pronunciation issues. She speaks slowly, articulates perfectly and every example is illustrated.

[André]

I'm here just not very talkative lately. Got other things than music on my mind. Glad to see the "Baron" here again.

Sarge

Keep safe !

[Cato]

I'm here just not very talkative lately. Got other things than music on my mind. Glad to see the "Baron" here again.

Sarge

Gluecklich ist Sarge angekommen!

I usually have Music in my mind, perhaps too often, either my own creations or those of someone else, e.g. right now the last movement of Bruckner's Fifth Symphony has been spinning thanks to my Inner D. J.   

Earlier it had been songs from the new Alexander Tcherepnin CD My Flowering Staff.    0:)

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Probably for centuries. If you check the glossary in the Gallimard edition of Maupassant's Contes normands, you'll find all kinds of such language colloquialisms. Also, check on YT, there are clips on the subject. It's the kind of things textbooks and courses never tell you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5i03JEQ8L8

Excellent short video on common pronunciation issues. She speaks slowly, articulates perfectly and every example is illustrated.

Thanks André! 

PD

[vandermolen]

I'm here just not very talkative lately. Got other things than music on my mind. Glad to see the "Baron" here again.

Sarge

Nice to see you here too Sarge.

[kyjo]

Nice to see you here too Sarge.

+1

[Christo]

I still miss cilgwyn. 

[Symphonic Addict]

Looks like John seriously took a rest by not participating on the forum anymore. I hope he's well.

[vandermolen]

I still miss cilgwyn. 

Me too Johan. I still find the abrupt nature of his departure disconcerting.

[vandermolen]

Looks like John seriously took a rest by not participating on the forum anymore. I hope he's well.

I did PM him and John responded that he just wanted a break to focus on listening to different music.