Beethoven Symphonies HIP

[Coopmv]

Wow, we really do have opposite tastes, assuming you mean Norrington/London Classical Players, which I found rather dull. Norrington in Stuttgart is another matter. Nobody beats Hogwood's 2 and 4!

I am still somewhat neutral on Norrington.  I have his Beethoven 9th with the London Classical Players and his Purcell Fairy Queen ...

[George]

Wand is good, but much like everyone else's (maybe a bit better, but you know what I mean). Harnoncourt's is rather more unique.

Thanks for the tip.

I could do without the asskicking anyway, what with my girlfriend being on me 24/7 lately. 

[DavidW]

What about Marriner?  His cycle certainly seems to be the most complete.

And Blomstedt has a cycle, and he's one of my favorite conductors.

[Coopmv]

What about Marriner?  His cycle certainly seems to be the most complete.

And Blomstedt has a cycle, and he's one of my favorite conductors.

Yeah, I have that cycle too and it is a pretty good set with a more traditional interpretation ...

[Elgarian]

when it's time don't forget the Florestan Trio's Archduke (or the Beaux Art's). 

Duly noted. Thanks.

[Rod Corkin]

Cool, put it on the back burner, but when it's time don't forget the Florestan Trio's Archduke (or the Beaux Art's).  [Much as I love period strings, drums, winds, & brass, I've never heard anything close to the richness of a modern piano].

Ha ha!  I just knew you'd be a Snorrington or Goodman fan!  I love it--you're almost a perfect reverse-taste barometer!  Do you by chance post reviews on Amazon under the name "Santa Fe Listener?"

No I have never reviewed at amazon, I review at my own site, and here on occasion. I can't say I've been impressed by the Florestan Trio's Beethoven from what I've heard.

[Rod Corkin]

Wow, we really do have opposite tastes, assuming you mean Norrington/London Classical Players, which I found rather dull. Norrington in Stuttgart is another matter. Nobody beats Hogwood's 2 and 4!

Well I stated that you have to pick and chose from the sources I mentioned, but Norrington's (yes with the LCP) Nr2 is light years better that Hogwood's, really I don't know what you are thinking about here. For Nr4 I usually play the version by the Hanover Band. I don't even consider buying Beethoven on modern instruments any more, unless it is some very rare piece that has been recorded no other way. Anyway I've said all I have to say on these things too often already, so I bid this topic adieu.

[Rod Corkin]

Ha ha!  I just knew you'd be a Snorrington or Goodman fan!  I love it--you're almost a perfect reverse-taste barometer!  Do you by chance post reviews on Amazon under the name "Santa Fe Listener?"

I will add that I can safely say I have spent more hours listening to Beethoven, performed HIP and otherwise, than the rest of GMG put together. I recommend you do not concern yourself with my taste, if you find yourself disagreeing with me I suggest the problem lies closer to home...  

Adieu once more..

[The new erato]

I will add that I can safely say I have spent more hours listening to Beethoven, performed HIP and otherwise, than the rest of GMG put together.

Slight exaggeration, anyone?

[Rod Corkin]

Slight exaggeration, anyone?

I think the silence answers your question...   

[The new erato]

They're probably busy, listening to Beethoven.

[Gurn Blanston]

Slight exaggeration, anyone?

Probably not.

Although to add a bit of balance to it, if I only listened to 2 composers I would be forced to listen to a lot of the music more than a few times too. Not criticizing, just sayin'...

[DavidRoss]

I will add that I can safely say I have spent more hours listening to Beethoven, performed HIP and otherwise, than the rest of GMG put together. I recommend you do not concern yourself with my taste, if you find yourself disagreeing with me I suggest the problem lies closer to home...  

I love your taste!  It's execrable, but at least you're consistent so far, thus may prove more helpful than those who are all over the map.  And your arrogance is a hoot!  You're like a character in a Monty Python sketch...no wonder Karl gets such a kick out of your pompous inanities!

I will never forget once hearing a young trucker bragging about his ten years of experience driving on snow and ice, when an old timer snorted and said, "Sounds more like one year of experience ten times."

Note to self:  Be sure to listen to one of the selections from Immerseel/Anima Eterna's delightful set of Beethoven symphonies today!

[Rod Corkin]

I love your taste!  It's execrable

Ah for these gems I keep coming back to GMG..

And your arrogance is a hoot!  You're like a character in a Monty Python sketch...no wonder Karl gets such a kick out of your pompous inanities!

It's a hoot because it's meant to be a hoot. The hootiness is an act, but the opinions amongst it all are real.

I will never forget once hearing a young trucker bragging about his ten years of experience driving on snow and ice, when an old timer snorted and said, "Sounds more like one year of experience ten times."

Hey I was moderating Beethoven forums more than ten years back, I fondly remember the war zone that was the Edepot Beethoven forum about 12 years ago. It was all relatively new in those days so everyone was totally 'unbound'. It's just not the same now.

Note to self:  Be sure to listen to one of the selections from Immerseel/Anima Eterna's delightful set of Beethoven symphonies today!

Well that's the trouble with Immerseel's Beethoven symphonies, they are rather too easy listening, the spark of fire never quite ignites. I have many of his fortepiano CDs but his conducting here is a let down, certainly he has nothing new to say compared to the other period instrument sets on offer. If you are new to HIP Beethoven it may be worth considering, but if you are an old campaigner you can easily bypass this set.

I think that's everything clarified, so I can give the matter my third and final 'adieu'.

[Rod Corkin]

Probably not.

Although to add a bit of balance to it, if I only listened to 2 composers I would be forced to listen to a lot of the music more than a few times too. Not criticizing, just sayin'...

Well either way it's not quite accurate, I don't just listen to two composers. You should return to my site Gurn, I have posted 1000's of comments and reviews relating to all manner of music old and new, and not all bad comments either before you think anything along those lines. For example on my listening list tonight includes Brahms' reduction of his German Requiem for chorus and piano (4 hands) and also Boulez's 'Eclat'.  I suppose it makes some people feel better about themselves to permeate these myths about me, but that's ok...  0:)

Anyway that is something else clarified, hopefully I can now lay this topic to rest...

[DavidW]

To continue my derailment of this thread, back onto the Schubert cycle--

The much loved Immerseel recording is OOP, but Brüggen is easy to get.  Is his recording of Schubert's symphonies good?

[Rod Corkin]

To continue my derailment of this thread, back onto the Schubert cycle--

Time for a bit of advice from the moderators here...  0:)

[Gurn Blanston]

Well either way it's not quite accurate, I don't just listen to two composers. You should return to my site Gurn, I have posted 1000's of comments and reviews relating to all manner of music old and new, and not all bad comments either before you think anything along those lines. For example on my listening list tonight includes Brahms' reduction of his German Requiem for chorus and piano (4 hands) and also Boulez's 'Eclat'.  I suppose it makes some people feel better about themselves to permeate these myths about me, but that's ok...  0:)

Anyway that is something else clarified, hopefully I can now lay this topic to rest...

Fortunately for me, Rod, I have no need to feel better about myself. These 'myths' as you call them were all started by you, so since I have no other reason to doubt them I take them at face value. It is very nice to hear that you are listening to other composers without having an axe to grind with them. This is the sort of positive 'turning-of-the-leaf' that I like to see happen to people. 

[The new erato]

Well either way it's not quite accurate, I don't just listen to two composers. You should return to my site Gurn, I have posted 1000's of comments and reviews relating to all manner of music old and new, and not all bad comments either before you think anything along those lines. For example on my listening list tonight includes Brahms' reduction of his German Requiem for chorus and piano (4 hands) and also Boulez's 'Eclat'.  I suppose it makes some people feel better about themselves to permeate these myths about me, but that's ok...  0:)

Anyway that is something else clarified, hopefully I can now lay this topic to rest...

well I listened to Beethoven op 59 no 3, so it seems you are lagging.........

[Elgarian]

For some unaccountable reason I find myself thinking of Emerson:

"The louder he talked of his honour, the faster we counted the spoons."