Unpopular Opinions

[AndyD.]

#LullabiedByBeauty

Wand's Bruckner discography is out of control.)

I have (I guess one of) his Bruckner's 9ths on dvd, like it. Nothing replaces Karajan in the church though imo. My favorite piece (by far) of Bruckner's.

[(poco) Sforzando]

I do apologize, I don't think of you as a preposterous, pretentious boob (though it tickles me to say it). And that part about whining was not cool. Forgive, please.

That's quite all right, Andy. I am entirely willing to plead guilty to "pretentious"; it's "preposterous" and "boob" to which I object.

[AndyD.]

That's quite all right, Andy. I am entirely willing to plead guilty to "pretentious"; it's "preposterous" and "boob" to which I object.

LOL! But "preposterous boob"...it's kinda fun to say. Try it (whilst summoning up the most over the top, officious mannerism): "you preposterous BOOB!". Trust me, you'll at least get a smile.

[Monsieur Croche]

Beethoven's Hammerklavier Sonate and the Grosse Fuga are failures on an epic scale, and both pieces are excessively ugly-sounding.

... or, those particular objects as subject aside, people adore and revere the weirdest things.

[Jo498]

Do you find the first three movements of op.106 also ugly? And is the failure of these works mainly their ugliness or something else? It sound as if the ugliness came on top of the epic failure...
(overall probably not that unpopular, at least not in former times)

[Uhor]

Music is very small and underdeveloped.

[71 dB]

Music is very small and underdeveloped.

Compared to what? Noise?

[Ghost Sonata]

I have (I guess one of) his Bruckner's 9ths on dvd, like it. Nothing replaces Karajan in the church though imo. My favorite piece (by far) of Bruckner's.

Yup! to both of those pretentiously preposterous propositions. 

[Karl Henning]

Postpreporous!

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[North Star]

Postpreporous!

Profoundly so.

[Florestan]

Beethoven's Hammerklavier Sonate and the Grosse Fuga are failures on an epic scale, and both pieces are excessively ugly-sounding.

Don´t be too harsh on the poor devil, next time he´ll do better, so much so as your benevolent advice, expert guidance and renowned compositional skills would undoubtedly be of invaluable service to him...

[Monsieur Croche]

Don´t be too harsh on the poor devil, next time he´ll do better, so much so as your benevolent advice, expert guidance and renowned compositional skills would undoubtedly be of invaluable service to him...

Uh, you do know that Luigi needs absolutely no help or advice from anyone? 

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Got it!!

Mr. Snuffleupagus missed his calling by slumming on Sesame Street. He should've busted a move on Chewbacca and taken his rightful place as Han Solo's sidekick.

Let's not forget the Mr. Snuffleupagus debacle!! Just because it hasn't come up in a while doesn't mean the issue has gone away!!

How can one not be aghast at Mr. Snuffleupagus's thoroughly shoddy treatment and all-around snubbing at the hands of the Hollywood "elite"??

Where was Mr. Snuff when the Hollywood snobs were handing out the lead in television's famous "ALF"??

Where was the consideration when it came time to pick a mega-saurus in the blockbuster Jurassic Park III? Spino??? Way to go Spielberg.....

And, what? That sniveling, half-pint canine as Toto?? Don't get me started!!!!!!

[Uhor]

If total serialism were a problem, it was abandoned before it was solved.

[Wanderer]

...are failures on an epic scale, and both pieces are excessively ugly-sounding.

This does describe most of the aural products of Xenakis, Stockhausen or the Durmstrang ilk rather more accurately than it does Beethoven.

[Wanderer]

Compared to what? Noise?

Apparently.

If total serialism were a problem, it was abandoned before it was solved.

Bummer.

[Todd]

Resurrecting this thread.  Don't know if it has been mentioned before in this thread, but upon re-listening to Op 130, I must say that the revised ending is much better than the Grosse Fugue, and there is a somewhat plausible chance that I never listen to the fugal ending again.

[Jo498]

It was probably in another thread but I remember a little discussion, probably with poco sf and amw about the pros/cons of the fugue vs. the replacement finale. Some favored to have the fugue as a separate piece and preferred the replacement as finale but I don't think anyone found that the fugue is a weaker piece than the replacement.
And elsewhere I have seen statements like that the replacement was a weak and banal piece; there are also at least two recordings by rather famous ensembles that contain only the fugue (Hagen and Artemis) which I find discographically repulsive because I think the listener should be able to decide which one he prefers.
So I guess your opinion qualifies as unpopular...

[Karl Henning]

Discussing possible titles for the Foote thread is more interesting than his music.

[North Star]

Discussing possible titles for the Foote thread is more interesting than his music.

+1  0:)