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[Mandryka]

 

Thanks. Just wondering then why they put that sentence on the box...
Do you have that set? Would you recommend it? The only Sweelinck I have is actually the Glenn Gould playing Fantasia Cromatica, and I listened to parts of the Ton Koopman set.

I enjoy quite a lot of that set. If you want a more or less "complete" keyboard music (which that set isn't), you may also like  the set on NM

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sweelinck-Complete-Keyboard-Jan-Pieterszoon/dp/B000065618/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475858341&sr=8-1&keywords=B000065618

[kishnevi]

I'm considering the Brilliant Classics recording of Liszt's oratorio Christus (Helmuth Rilling conducting), but I'd like to know whether the booklet contains texts and English translations? The translation is not absolutely vital, but I'd prefer there to be the sung texts so I can follow along.

Can not speak to that precise recording, but Brilliant usually leaves texts and translation out of the physical issue, but makes them available through their website.

[Madiel]

I'm considering the Brilliant Classics recording of Liszt's oratorio Christus (Helmuth Rilling conducting), but I'd like to know whether the booklet contains texts and English translations? The translation is not absolutely vital, but I'd prefer there to be the sung texts so I can follow along.

I've found a reference in a review of another version (which lacked English entirely) saying that the Brilliant Classics version has an English synopsis, but not a translation. Latin and German texts.

It also says, however, that the same Rilling recording released on Hanssler had the full text in English. And it seems that the Hanssler edition is readily available (just found it on both Arkivmusic and Presto).

[André]

Now that I own almost all of the Pettersson symphonies (only 1, 12 and 16 have so far escaped my grubby hands), the CPO set has become quite affordable (less than 50 £).



But then the individual BIS issues of the much newer set by Christian Lidberg are coming down in price, too. What is one to do   ? 

Of course individual performances by Dorati and Commissiona remain highly desirable, but for the bulk of that huge corpus, I imagine that the newer BIS discs will become the benchmark (I don't know, I haven't heard any of them).

Anyone can comment on the new BIS vs the old CPO discs ?

[aligreto]

Now that I own almost all of the Pettersson symphonies (only 1, 12 and 16 have so far escaped my grubby hands), the CPO set has become quite affordable (less than 50 £).



But then the individual BIS issues of the much newer set by Christian Lidberg are coming down in price, too. What is one to do   ? 

Of course individual performances by Dorati and Commissiona remain highly desirable, but for the bulk of that huge corpus, I imagine that the newer BIS discs will become the benchmark (I don't know, I haven't heard any of them).

Anyone can comment on the new BIS vs the old CPO discs ?

That set is also on my List so I too will be interested in any responses to this one.

[king ubu]

That set is also on my List so I too will be interested in any responses to this one.

It's on my pile ... a friend is a big fan and when someone owned me a favour, I had it sent my way from JPC, which has been selling it for 50€ for quite a while:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/cpo/detail/-/art/Allan-Pettersson-1911-1980-S%E4mtliche-Symphonien/hnum/3512541

I've not explored Pettersson's symphonies at all yet, but there's two more discs on cpo with the violin concertos, and then there's one on Caprice with Ida Haendel doing the second violin concerto - and that one I have already listened to, though just once, as this remains largely uncharted territory for me so far.

If anyone over here in yurop needs any single cpo discs, drop me a private message, I have a few duplicates to pass on (obviously the friend who recommended Pettersson to me has them all and I wouldn't know whom to pass these on).

[Turner]

That set is also on my List so I too will be interested in any responses to this one.

I haven´t heard the whole BIS set, but I tend to have favourite recordings in both sets + the old pre-digital ones by Dorati, Kamu and Commissiona.

I found the 7th + 8th disappointing in the BIS series, but then there is Dorati and Commissiona for those.
On the other hand, no.1 can only be found in the BIS set, and 10th+11th were better there.

As regards CPO, the 6th is bad there IMO, somehow doesn´t get off the ground, though it´s been highly praised.
Kamu´s wasn´t released on CD I think, the BIS is probably better than the CPO.

The Ida Haendel recording on the 2nd V Cto is absolutely essential in the Pettersson discography, much better and very, very different from the CPO one. If one finds it too chaotic and aggressive, get used to it, or listen to the second half in particular.

[André]

+ 1 for the VC and Ida Handel. Searing stuff.

BIS had an earlier, incomplete set of performances under Segerstam : 7+11, 8+10, 3+15. I have those too, but TBH it's hard to compare Pettersson discs. When I'm done with a symphony, I don't feel like comparing it with another interpretation. Critical sense and analytical ears are better left at the door when you enter into a Pettersson symphony. He draws me in like no other composer. It's mentally and emotionally draining.

[GioCar]

I enjoy quite a lot of that set. If you want a more or less "complete" keyboard music (which that set isn't), you may also like  the set on NM

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sweelinck-Complete-Keyboard-Jan-Pieterszoon/dp/B000065618/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475858341&sr=8-1&keywords=B000065618

Thanks for the new reference.
So, not only the info on the back side of the Glossa box are misleading, but also the "complete" on the front side is wrong.
Glossa, what are you doing, you scamp?

[Mandryka]

Thanks for the new reference.
So, not only the info on the back side of the Glossa box are misleading, but also the "complete" on the front side is wrong.
Glossa, what are you doing, you scamp?

Oh maybe it is complete all together, but the box with the Leonhardt in comes is just "Part 2" of a complete edition, at least that's the way I have it. To give you an idea, the NM box which is his complete keyboard music I think, has 9 CDs. I didn't buy any more of the Aeolus set, not that part 2 is disappointing in any way.

[aligreto]

I haven´t heard the whole BIS set, but I tend to have favourite recordings in both sets + the old pre-digital ones by Dorati, Kamu and Commissiona.

I found the 7th + 8th disappointing in the BIS series, but then there is Dorati and Commissiona for those.
On the other hand, no.1 can only be found in the BIS set, and 10th+11th were better there.

As regards CPO, the 6th is bad there IMO, somehow doesn´t get off the ground, though it´s been highly praised.
Kamu´s wasn´t released on CD I think, the BIS is probably better than the CPO.

The Ida Haendel recording on the 2nd V Cto is absolutely essential in the Pettersson discography, much better and very, very different from the CPO one. If one finds it too chaotic and aggressive, get used to it, or listen to the second half in particular.

Thank you for that 

[Spineur]

I like to listen at least once to the operas I will attend.

So I am looking for the original bbc production with Janet Baker

[asin]B001KVAMNI[/asin]

Its OOP.  Any ideas where to find a used copy ?

[aligreto]

I like to listen at least once to the operas I will attend.

So I am looking for the original bbc production with Janet Baker

[asin]B001KVAMNI[/asin]

Its OOP.  Any ideas where to find a used copy ?

You might try this....


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Britten-Benjamin-Owen-Wingrave-DVD/dp/B001KVAMNI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1475946052&sr=8-4&keywords=britten+owen+wingrave

[Spineur]

You might try this....


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Britten-Benjamin-Owen-Wingrave-DVD/dp/B001KVAMNI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1475946052&sr=8-4&keywords=britten+owen+wingrave

Merci beaucoup Aligreto !

[aligreto]

Merci beaucoup Aligreto !

Mon plaisir Spineur; I hope that you enjoy it 

[PerfectWagnerite]

Any thoughts on this?

[Mirror Image]

Any thoughts on this?

Well, it's Adams, so, of course, quite naturally, it's disappointing and a hackneyed piece.

[Mirror Image]

Now that I own almost all of the Pettersson symphonies (only 1, 12 and 16 have so far escaped my grubby hands), the CPO set has become quite affordable (less than 50 £).



But then the individual BIS issues of the much newer set by Christian Lidberg are coming down in price, too. What is one to do   ? 

Of course individual performances by Dorati and Commissiona remain highly desirable, but for the bulk of that huge corpus, I imagine that the newer BIS discs will become the benchmark (I don't know, I haven't heard any of them).

Anyone can comment on the new BIS vs the old CPO discs ?

I slogged my way through that set (or at least most of it) only to find that Pettersson really wanted me to feel his misery. I felt miserable, yes, but only after realizing that I can't get the time back for giving a composer of his rather limited ability a chance to begin with.

[aligreto]

I slogged my way through that set (or at least most of it) only to find that Pettersson really wanted me to feel his misery. I felt miserable, yes, but only after realizing that I can't get the time back for giving a composer of his rather limited ability a chance to begin with.

Harsh. That bad really? I must do my research so before I shell out my hard earned.

[Mirror Image]

Harsh. That bad really? I must do my research so before I shell out my hard earned.

I didn't mean to be this harsh, but I put Pettersson and Penderecki in the same category in that their music has a lot of a grandstanding but they have no platform to stand on.

Don't take my word as gospel, you may end up liking this music more than I did.

Edit: I do like his Symphony No. 7 very much and really admire, not only its construction, but the late-Romantic aural webs the music sometimes lures me into. This work does have something more in common with the Romantic tradition, but I suppose that's why I like it so much. It's not just barrages of anger and bitterness for it's own sake. There's more of a purpose to this work I feel.