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[betterthanfine]

Has anyone heard Gatti's performance of Saint Sébastian?



I'm a big fan of Isabelle Huppert and would like to get it for her narration alone, but it helps if it's a solid performance as well. Also, I can hear quite a bit of audience noise on the Amazon clips. How bad is it?

[TheGSMoeller]

Has a US release date of April 30th, I love Alice Coote and this interests me quite a bit, anyone heard this?

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[Mirror Image]

Greg, are you becoming a Mahler man now?

[TheGSMoeller]

Greg, are you becoming a Mahler man now?

I'm definitely getting deeper into his vocal works (der Erde, no.8, no.4) which is an area of Mahler I've explored the least, and I'm starting to see some genius in his vocal writing. But I wouldn't call myself a Mahler Man, perhaps a Mahler Friend 

[Mirror Image]

I'm definitely getting deeper into his vocal works (der Erde, no.8, no.4) which is an area of Mahler I've explored the least, and I'm starting to see some genius in his vocal writing. But I wouldn't call myself a Mahler Man, perhaps a Mahler Friend 

Don't forget about Symphony No. 3.

[TheGSMoeller]

Don't forget about Symphony No. 3.

The ones I mentioned earlier are the ones I don't know as well, 2 and 3 I know very well. In fact, the finale of the 3rd is one of the first pieces of classical music I remember hearing.

[Bogey]

[Bogey]

[knight66]

That is a most beautiful performance. I have had it for many years and of all the versions I have flirted with it is the one I return to. It stands first equal with the newish LSO label version which is very special indeed.

Mike

[Bogey]

Thanks, Mike!

[DavidRoss]

I'm definitely getting deeper into his vocal works (der Erde, no.8, no.4) which is an area of Mahler I've explored the least, and I'm starting to see some genius in his vocal writing.

That's great, Greg. Don't overlook symphonies 2 & 3 or the song cycles: Kindertotenlieder, Rückertlieder, Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen, and Des Knaben Wunderhorn. This recording is a must:



Here's a sample:

http://www.youtube.com/v/20YsQ2-B7sM

[Karl Henning]

That's great, Greg. Don't overlook symphonies 2 & 3 or the song cycles: Kindertotenlieder, Rückertlieder, Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen, and Des Knaben Wunderhorn. This recording is a must:

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[TheGSMoeller]

That's great, Greg. Don't overlook symphonies 2 & 3 or the song cycles: Kindertotenlieder, Rückertlieder, Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen, and Des Knaben Wunderhorn. This recording is a must:

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Thanks! I think it's safe to go with Baker in most cases. 

[Mirror Image]

A few I'm looking at:

[Brian]

A few I'm looking at:

Well, admittedly, this is one of only two Hartmann Six recordings that I've heard, which makes me a novice on the subject, but my sheer ignorance means that I can pound the table all the more fiercely! As I'm sure you know, Hurwitz is a fan: "Leitner's credentials as a "structural" conductor, so evident in his Bruckner, serve him ideally in music that sounds wild but in reality requires an extremely disciplined approach to tempo and dynamics. He builds the first movement's central climax with inexorable force and perfectly judges the tempos of the finale's successive fugues, making clear the thematic relationships between them while at the same time never holding back the headlong rush to the final bars.... The prominence of the piano and mallet instruments may strike you as odd, but it certainly clarifies Hartmann's incredibly complex textures–and it's obvious that Leitner knows where to lead your ear at any given time."

[Mirror Image]

Well, admittedly, this is one of only two Hartmann Six recordings that I've heard, which makes me a novice on the subject, but my sheer ignorance means that I can pound the table all the more fiercely! As I'm sure you know, Hurwitz is a fan: "Leitner's credentials as a "structural" conductor, so evident in his Bruckner, serve him ideally in music that sounds wild but in reality requires an extremely disciplined approach to tempo and dynamics. He builds the first movement's central climax with inexorable force and perfectly judges the tempos of the finale's successive fugues, making clear the thematic relationships between them while at the same time never holding back the headlong rush to the final bars.... The prominence of the piano and mallet instruments may strike you as odd, but it certainly clarifies Hartmann's incredibly complex textures–and it's obvious that Leitner knows where to lead your ear at any given time."

I didn't know Hurwitz was a fan, but you should know how I feel about Hurwitz by now. I just don't like the guy. I've heard the 6th dozens of times now (Kubelik (the best I've heard so far), Gunther Herbig (really good performance), Metzmacher (I wish there was a vomit emoticon)). I imagine Leitner's 6th is outstanding. His 3rd is off the chain. Blows Metzmacher away easily. For the next Hartmann symphony cycle, if we're so lucky to be blessed with another one, should be from a gnarly German conductor conducting the Cologne Radio Symphony or even the Berlin Radio Symphony. The Munich Philharmonic would do well in this music too I imagine. The reason I'm using these orchestras is because the Berliners and VPO are the least likely to do a cycle. Anyway, thanks for the information, Brian.

[jlaurson]

...The Munich Philharmonic would do well in this music too I imagine. The reason I'm using these orchestras is because the Berliners and VPO are the least likely to do a cycle. Anyway, thanks for the information, Brian.

Hell freezes over, before the Munich Philharmonic will do a Hartmann cycle. And the Berlin Philharmonic will record two cycles, before that happens. (I could actually see Rattle getting into it, once he discovered Hartmann.)  If any big orchestra is likely to take a crack at it again, it's perhaps Hartmann's 'own', the BRSO. (Tied into it, via BR & Musica Viva.)

Let's also keep an eye out for the Hamburg Opera Orchestra, which is getting a Hartmann-convert in the form of Nagano.

[Bogey]

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Same thing, correct?  Either way, your thoughts.

[jlaurson]

Same thing, correct?  Either way, your thoughts.

Same thing, correct. A bit more space-saving in the latter case, although the two double jewel-cases of the old iterations is pretty tightly packed, too.

Performances are better than Boehm's Vienna-Snoozefest Mozart, but other than the emotional soft-spot I have for these, since they were my first and only complete Mozart set for a long, long time, I've grown out of this way of Mozart performances. At its best, it can be utterly musical and joyous... despite itself. But it's not "at its best" in every symphony to begin with. So a qualified, mildly positive "Meh", from me.

[Mirror Image]

Hell freezes over, before the Munich Philharmonic will do a Hartmann cycle. And the Berlin Philharmonic will record two cycles, before that happens. (I could actually see Rattle getting into it, once he discovered Hartmann.)  If any big orchestra is likely to take a crack at it again, it's perhaps Hartmann's 'own', the BRSO. (Tied into it, via BR & Musica Viva.)

Let's also keep an eye out for the Hamburg Opera Orchestra, which is getting a Hartmann-convert in the form of Nagano.

Why would you say hell would freeze over before Munich Philharmonic record a Hartmann cycle? What's been happening with this orchestra lately?

Hmmm....Nagano in Hartmann? Sounds interesting.