Recordings That You Are Considering

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kishnevi

Quote from: North Star on March 08, 2014, 06:16:55 AM
The Abbado Unfinished and No. 9 are very fine indeed, when I listened to them on Spotify premium they were, anyway.

The true gem in Abbado's cycle is Symphony 8.5--by which I mean the orchestration of the Grand Duo Sonata by Joachim,  which becomes in that treatment a full symphony.  (Are there any other recordings of this orchestration?  I've never encountered it before.)

Ken B

Quote from: marvinbrown on March 08, 2014, 02:18:34 AM

  I'd like to buy another Schubert symphony cycle.  I have Wand's Schubert and am now considering one of these 3:

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  I am leaning towards the Harnoncourt set but the Kertesz seems to have gotten rave reviews as well.  Any advice here would be appreciated.

  marvin
I like Goodman, originally on Nimbus. HIP.

Itullian

Quote from: Cosi bel do on March 08, 2014, 05:48:44 AM
I don't really like Wand's cycle (his later recordings of symphonies 8 & 9 are great, though).
Harnoncourt's cycle is not that good either (compared to his Beethoven for instance).
Immerseel is one of my favourites, but not good in all symphonies, a little frustrating at times (the very wide and a little blurry sonics are mostly responsible).
Kertész is good but still a little too romantic to my taste. Böhm is, too, but it's still a classic, one everyone should have somewhere.
Avoid at all cost Karajan on EMI.

The one that was not mentioned and that is absolutely the best if you're looking for interpretations that are precise, tasteful, not too dry but not too romantic either, is Abbado. His Schubert cycle is actually his best complete cycle of symphonies of any composer...

So my choice would be : 1. Abbado because it's the best on the market ; 2. Böhm because you must have it ; 3. Immerseel because it will really bring you a different view on these symphonies.
Then if you want a few more, start with Kertész and Harnoncourt.

I still have to listen to Dausgaard here.

I think the Karajan EMI is a great cycle.
When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

Wanderer

Quote from: marvinbrown on March 08, 2014, 02:18:34 AM

  I'd like to buy another Schubert symphony cycle.  I have Wand's Schubert and am now considering one of these 3:

I'd suggest you go with Harnoncourt.

marvinbrown



Thank you all for such lively and informative discussions of the Schubert symphonies! You certainly have not made the choice easy for me so I put a few of the cycles mentioned in my shopping basket. I am still leaning towards Harnoncourt as it is as some of you say different from Wand. I like to hear a different take on these symphonies. I am intrigued by the Immerseel set and will be looking into the Abbado set. Once again thank you all for your feedback.

  marvin

Mandryka

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De ce rêve à la John Cage sort un livre, où il nous est donné de participer aux pensées d'une musicienne hors pair. Comment se règle en elle, au moment où elle tourne les pages de sa partition, l'" entretien " de ses cinq sens ? Que se disent en elle ses compagnons François et Louis Couperin, Froberger, Frescobaldi, Sweelinck et Bach ? Le dernier couronne ceux qui l'ont précédé. Nous sommes au matin du monde, juste avant l'accident de la première note - l'incarnation du son.
Avec ce traité du goût subtil et délicat, d'une rare exigence, Blandine Verlet ouvre son atelier : choix de textes, entretien, images d'art reproduites en couleurs, notes issues de ses carnets. Dans chacune de ces pages sonne un " art de toucher " et résonne une voix que beaucoup connaissent déjà, pour l'avoir entendue les guider dans l'intimité des plus grands compositeurs.
Ce livre échappant à tous les genres, ouvert aux interprètes et aux mélomanes, est accompagné d'un disque où figurent plusieurs enregistrements inédits."

Quelqu'un sait quels inédits exactement? Et le bouquin -- c'est nul ou  c'est interéssant?
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

amw

As long as we (well, apart from Mandryka) are on Schubert, anyone know Minkowski/Musiciens de Louvre? I'm listening to their 9th right now on NML and am intrigued for reasons that will be hard to put into words until I've heard the whole thing.

Todd

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Bogey

Quote from: Todd on March 09, 2014, 04:41:31 PM


Interesting.  I have zip in the way of Handel solo keyboard works.  Post if you snag it.
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Bogey

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Mandryka

Quote from: Bogey on March 09, 2014, 06:18:09 PM


102 is great - one of my favourite Haydn symphony recordings by anyone.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Mookalafalas

But for the same price (from Amazon's "other sellers") you can get 5 more excellent discs as well:
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It's all good...

Ken B

Quote from: Baklavaboy on March 09, 2014, 10:49:34 PM
But for the same price (from Amazon's "other sellers") you can get 5 more excellent discs as well:
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This is the paramedic.
Ken B had to be resuscitated after gazing upon this. He began raving about 'the horror the horror' and then frantically turning up the volume on his neighbour's radio which playing "The Monkees Legacy: The Forgotten B-Sides" crying "anything to drive that memory away, anything anything". At that point he collapsed. He is resting now, but weeping silently and not responding to questions.
You might need to add a warning label, WARNING: KLEMPERER BAROQUE, MAY DAMAGE SOUL

Mandryka

Quote from: Ken B on March 10, 2014, 06:15:32 AM
This is the paramedic.
Ken B had to be resuscitated after gazing upon this. He began raving about 'the horror the horror' and then frantically turning up the volume on his neighbour's radio which playing "The Monkees Legacy: The Forgotten B-Sides" crying "anything to drive that memory away, anything anything". At that point he collapsed. He is resting now, but weeping silently and not responding to questions.
You might need to add a warning label, WARNING: KLEMPERER BAROQUE, MAY DAMAGE SOUL

I think Klemperer's Brandenburg Concertos are very fine.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Ken B

Quote from: Mandryka on March 10, 2014, 06:46:42 AM
I think Klemperer's Brandenburg Concertos are very fine.
On that we will never agree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH06R6cTOuo
I rest my case!  8)

Mookalafalas

I really like his St. Mathew and Mass in B minor.  It's not Baroque, of course, but his Mozart and Haydn symphonies are wonderful.  Get it Ken! Your birthday is in 3 days. Surprise yourself!
It's all good...

Ken B

Quote from: Baklavaboy on March 10, 2014, 07:38:49 AM
I really like his St. Mathew and Mass in B minor.  It's not Baroque, of course, but his Mozart and Haydn symphonies are wonderful.  Get it Ken! Your birthday is in 3 days. Surprise yourself!
Aaagh. That SMP. That turned me off the SMP for years. Literally. I think it was 5 years before I would listen to any SMP after that trauma.  I got that set for FREE, and regretted having it!

Mandryka

Quote from: Ken B on March 10, 2014, 07:30:13 AM
On that we will never agree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH06R6cTOuo
I rest my case!  8)

Yes well you win. I just listened to some of Brandenburg 6 again and it sounded pretty dead. I played the first movement.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Que


Bogey

Klemperer, Böhm, Davis, Szell and the likes brought down the hammer on this stuff.  Especially for Haydn.  No them, no Hogwood.....let alone all 'dem splinter light weights*. >:D

*of who I also greatly enjoy, but will take away from me getting the drama going here
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