Mahler vs. R. Strauss

[Scion7]

Is this even up for debate? 

Mahler in every way - Strauss's tone poems get a few plays here now and then.

Mahler was one of the revolutionary symphonists - I don't see Richard shaking the world tree very hard.

[Mirror Image]

I don't see Richard shaking the world tree very hard.

I disagree. I'm beginning to rediscover Strauss, after a year or so hiatus, and I'm finding his music to be just what the doctor ordered. I mean how can you deny the power of Alpensinfonie, Elektra, Salome, Ein Heldenleben, Also sprach Zarathustra, or Metamorphosen?

[springrite]

I disagree. I'm beginning to rediscover Strauss, after a year or so hiatus, and I'm finding his music to be just what the doctor ordered. I mean how can you deny the power of Alpensinfonie, Elektra, Salome, Ein Heldenleben, Also sprach Zarathustra, or Metamorphosen?

Well, Salome shook the tree a bit, but much of that work was done by Oscar Wilde.

Alpensinfonie IS the tree

[TheGSMoeller]

Is this even up for debate? 

Mahler in every way - Strauss's tone poems get a few plays here now and then.

Mahler was one of the revolutionary symphonists - I don't see Richard shaking the world tree very hard.

"That's just like, your opinion, man."  -Jeff Lebowski

[Karl Henning]

Is this even up for debate?

Right: how could anyone have an opinion other than in line with mine . . . .

[Karl Henning]

"That's just like, your opinion, man."  -Jeff Lebowski

Hah! You got there first.

[madaboutmahler]

My two favourite composers.....


But you know my answer!

Some really amusing posts on this thread by the way, thoroughly enjoyed reading them!

[Karl Henning]

But you know my answer!

Something to do with your ID not being madaboutstrauss. Am I close?

[madaboutmahler]

Something to do with your ID not being madaboutstrauss. Am I close?

Very, Karl! 

[TheGSMoeller]

I think Strauss' reputation sometimes gets drowned in his tone poems, although they are great, and continue to find performances in concert halls, some of his greatest compositions are elsewhere; operas, chamber music, concerti and even songs.

[DavidW]

I think Strauss' reputation sometimes gets drowned in his tone poems, although they are great, and continue to find performances in concert halls, some of his greatest compositions are elsewhere; operas, chamber music, concerti and even songs.

Can you rec some chamber music? haven't heard any.  Will listen tomorrow on spotify.

[TheGSMoeller]

Can you rec some chamber music? haven't heard any.  Will listen tomorrow on spotify.

Not sure what's available on Spotify, but here's some recordings...

First is Gould performing Strauss piano...

Second & Third are two volumes of set with Sawalisch of chamber music...

Last is a recording of Strauss' music for wind ensembles,  a Serenade and Suite written early in his career, and then a Sonatina and Symphony written later, the four pieces for winds by Strauss are some of my favorite.

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[Bogey]

Anyone seen Bogey? My boys are looking for him.




Sarge

Hope all is well, my friend.

[DavidW]

Thanks Greg the first two are on Spotify, will listen tomorrow.

[TheGSMoeller]

Thanks Greg the first two are on Spotify, will listen tomorrow.

You're very welcome.
Search Spotify for the music for winds, there might another recording on there, you should really listen to them, some truly wonderful music.

[Scion7]

He was pretty good in 2001.   

[Scion7]

I didn't say I don't like Strauss's music - some of it is quite good, like the Oboe concerto.
But you seem to have asked a question between choosing between him and Mahler, and I went with Mahler - Strauss was a fine craftsman who knew instrumental color (mature yrs) and what to do with it.

But Mahler took music in some new directions in ways Strauss did not.  And had Mahler not been suppressed to such a great degree in his lifetime, he'd have been recognized much earlier than the posthumous discovery of his music and the impact it has had on the classical world today.

[Sergeant Rock]

"That's just like, your opinion, man."  -Jeff Lebowski

Indeed it is his opinion...but at least it's the right opinion 

Sarge

[TheGSMoeller]

Indeed it is his opinion...but at least it's the right opinion 

Sarge

I just can't pass up on a chance to quote Jeff Lebowski.

[Karl Henning]

Nice marmot.