Prokofiev Piano Sonatas

Started by The Six, April 04, 2012, 09:31:25 PM

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The Six

A stunning body of work, but each is just different enough that it shouldn't be too hard to pick one favorite. Right?

classicalgeek

#7 gets my vote based on the thrilling finale alone!  #6 is a very strong work as well, and from the early sonatas, #2 probably speaks to me the most.

So much great music, so little time...

DieNacht

No. 7: ditto here.

Especially due to the Freddy Kempf and Richter recordings.

oyasumi

8 for me. It has the most power and widest range of emotions, as well as the most successful slow movement, I think. That melancholy melody in the first, and the way it's twisted in the climax is unbelievable.

7 seems to be the most popular, but personally I don't get it. The first movement starts off captivatingly, but it quickly does all it can to lose one's attention. The slow section loses me. I'm not a fan of the middle movement, and
as far as the finale, for a perpetual motion-type piece I prefer the second movement of the 2nd sonata.

5 apparently was such a failure that Prokofiev felt he had to revise it later in life, but I think there are many pleasant parts in it. 6 is the most difficult, and very ambitious. I might say it's my second favorite.

9, though, is sadly still misunderstood. It does not get much attention, but I like what Prokofiev was going for here. This sonata to much feels the most personal and touching, especially the first movement. Actually, this one is my second favorite.

eyeresist

Sadly, I am a Prok fan who hasn't yet got to grips with these works. I have the Petrov set on Venezia, which did not make a favourable impression, and Richter's 8 (with the concerto with Rowicki) - sadly, same. But I have high hopes for Raekallio....

The Six

Quote from: eyeresist on April 06, 2012, 08:54:48 PM
Sadly, I am a Prok fan who hasn't yet got to grips with these works.

With 83 views of this thread and only 5 votes, I guess most of GMG is with you on that!

springrite

After considering 7 and 2, I gave my vote to 6!
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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: eyeresist on April 06, 2012, 08:54:48 PM
Sadly, I am a Prok fan who hasn't yet got to grips with these works....

Quote from: The Six on April 07, 2012, 08:28:43 AM....I guess most of GMG is with you on that!

I am to a certain extent. The "great" sonatas (6, 7, 8 ) have yet to make much of an impression on me...much of a positive impression.  I do love the D minor though (and Springrite just told me so did Richter  8) )  So the Second gets my vote.

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North Star

Too hard to choose just one from so many great works, 2nd, 5th (Op. 38), 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th are my favourites.
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Scion7

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Dancing Divertimentian

It's interesting to me to read of the problems folks apparently have with the piano sonatas. Can't fathom myself what the problem might be. They're among the crown jewels in Prokofiev's output, along with his piano concertos, operas, and ballets.

Is it the medium itself that is causing problems? IOW, they aren't symphonies? Prokofiev's symphonies go in for a fair amount of discussion on GMG but in an ironic twist of fate they're actually much less accomplished than the other works I listed.

Perhaps tearing down the stereotype that the symphony is the grandest statement of all might help in perceiving the greatness in other forms of music.

Composers like Prokofiev deserve as much.


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Karl Henning

Quote from: The Six on April 07, 2012, 08:28:43 AM
With 83 views of this thread and only 5 votes, I guess most of GMG is with you on that!

Oh, not I!  I like them all (or, most of them) too well to vote for just one; so I abstain.  But, I find the discussion of interest.
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: karlhenning on May 10, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
Oh, not I!  I like them all (or, most of them) too well to vote for just one; so I abstain.  But, I find the discussion of interest.

Ditto!

Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Leon

For me, the piano sonatas, collectively, are where Prokofiev proves his compositional metal.

:)

Karl Henning

Forgive the nitpick, my friend . . . but you mean mettle : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Leon

Quote from: karlhenning on May 10, 2012, 12:09:44 PM
Forgive the nitpick, my friend . . . but you mean mettle : )

I was wondering about that, but was too lazy check it. 

Thanks for the heads up.

:)


eyeresist

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on May 10, 2012, 11:10:52 AMIt's interesting to me to read of the problems folks apparently have with the piano sonatas. Can't fathom myself what the problem might be. They're among the crown jewels in Prokofiev's output, along with his piano concertos, operas, and ballets.

Is it the medium itself that is causing problems? IOW, they aren't symphonies? Prokofiev's symphonies go in for a fair amount of discussion on GMG but in an ironic twist of fate they're actually much less accomplished than the other works I listed.

I respectfully disagree :) I think the symphonies remain underestimated.

Karl Henning

Quote from: eyeresist on May 10, 2012, 06:35:04 PM
I respectfully disagree :) I think the symphonies remain underestimated.

Man, if you can speak eloquently on behalf of the Third and Fourth, I should attend your word closely.  I like them, but they do not spark my musical passion in the way the others do.

The general neglect of the Second, though, I think practically criminal.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

eyeresist

Quote from: karlhenning on May 11, 2012, 03:45:04 AMMan, if you can speak eloquently on behalf of the Third and Fourth, I should attend your word closely.  I like them, but they do not spark my musical passion in the way the others do.

What, not even the scherzo of the 3rd? That's some of my favourite of all Prokofiev!


Lisztianwagner

It's a rather hard contest among No.6, No.7 and No.8; but I think I'll end up voting for the 8th Piano Sonata. :)
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