Great Lieder Recordings

Started by Sammy, April 23, 2012, 03:09:59 PM

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Sammy

I'd appreciate input on your most treasured recordings of lieder.  I am interested in the time period from classical to mid-20th century.

Don't concern yourself with giving me too much information; the more the better.

DavidW

Feel free to ignore my post, I am no expert.  I would say DFD: Schubert, Schumann, Mahler.  DFD has a great voice and his singing is so heartfelt.

Scion7

No expert, either - I'm probably 95% instrumental music as far as Classical goes - but I have a few choice things by Beethoven, Schubert, Brahms, Mahler, etc., and the odd opera or two. 

I like Schwarzkopf, Ludwig, Ferrier, von Otter  .... a piece by piece thing.



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mc ukrneal

I'll try to get back to you later today. I saw the post, but have not had time to put together a proper response.
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Mandryka

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Quote from: Sammy on April 23, 2012, 03:09:59 PM
I'd appreciate input on your most treasured recordings of lieder.  I am interested in the time period from classical to mid-20th century.

Don't concern yourself with giving me too much information; the more the better.

Be warned I have no technical interest in the voice -- these records are chosen solely for their poetry.



Hunt-Lieberson's Wigmore Hall CD with Frauenlieben und Leben, and the one with the Mahler songs

Schreier/Rchter Winterreise

Fassbaender/Riemann Dichterliebe

Dorliac/Richter Dichterliebe

Schreier/Shetler Liederkreis Op 39

Hotter/Moore Winterreise

Kipnis singing Schwanengesang songs

Stich Randal singing Strauss and Mozart, and the live record with Rosbaud on the piano. There's a good collection called "The Art of ..."

Partridge/Partridge Miller's Wife

Pavarotti and Gedda  Liszt anthologies

Schwanewilms's Strauss songs

The Schwartzkopf EMI random Wolf recital disc, and The Olf Bar Wolf disc

Some of the Vinogradov, Erb,  and Schlusnis anthologies

Auger singing Handel (German Arias)

Fischer Dieskau/Weisenbaum Kerner Lieder

Hunt-Lieberson/Peter Serkin Brahms songs from the Ravinia disc

Margaret Price's Wigmore Hall Schubert CD (maybe just because I was there.)

Flagstad's late Wolf recital and her 4 last songs  (Strauss)

The big areas where I would appreciate some suggestions are Mozart and Brahms. Also Schumann duets - I don't like DFD.
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Sammy

Quote from: Mandryka on April 24, 2012, 07:45:17 AM
Be warned I have no technical interest in the voice -- these records are chosen solely for their poetry.



Hunt-Lieberson's Wigmore Hall CD with Frauenlieben aund Leben, and the one with the Mahler songs

Schreier/Rchter Winterreise

Fassbaender/Riemann Dichterliebe

Dorliac/Richter Dichterliebe

Schreier/Shetler Liederkreis Op 39

Hotter/Moore Winterreise

Kipnis singing Schwanengesang songs

Stich Randal singing Strauss and Mozart, and the live record with Rosbaud on the piano. There's a good collection called "The Art of ..."

Partridge/Partridge Miller's Wife

Pavarotti and Gedda  Liszt anthologies

Schwanewilms's Strauss songs

The Schwartzkopf EMI random Wolf recital disc, and The Olf Bar Wolf disc

Some of the Vinogradov, Erb,  and Schlusnis anthologies

Auger singing Handel (German Arias)

Fischer Dieskau/Weisenbaum Kerner Lieder

Hunt-Lieberson/Peter Serkin Brahms songs from the Ravinia disc

Margaret Price's Wigmore Hall Schubert CD (maybe just because I was there.)

Flagstad's late Wolf recital and her 4 last songs  (Strauss)

The big areas where I would appreciate some suggestions are Mozart and Brahms. Also Schumann duets - I don't like DFD.

That's a nice big list that I'll make a copy of.  Thanks much.

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: Mandryka on April 24, 2012, 07:45:17 AM

The big areas where I would appreciate some suggestions are Mozart and Brahms.

Brahms's lieder is particularly good. I'm fond of Banse/Schmidt on cpo and von Otter on DG.



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One area Brahms excelled in yet seems to fly under the radar a bit is his output for vocal ensemble w/piano. The following discs are wonderfully idiomatic (and since you don't like DFD I've given a great alternative recording for the Liebeslieder):


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Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Dancing Divertimentian

Another good one for the Brahms:



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Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Sammy

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on April 24, 2012, 10:05:54 AM
Brahms's lieder is particularly good. I'm fond of Banse/Schmidt on cpo and von Otter on DG.



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I looked up that Banse/Schmidt recording only to find that CPO has issued nine volumes of Brahms lieder; I'm salivating over this cycle.  Thanks alot for the discovery.

The new erato

Amazing disc:

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mc ukrneal

It will take me a bit longer to get back to you, but you have some good ideas here.
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

The new erato

Likewise:

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kishnevi

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I'm not much of a lieder person, but I like (you'll note that most of this is orchestral lieder:  does that matter to you?)--
Mark Padmore singing Britten on a Harmonia Mundi disc
Ian Bostridge's Britten orchestral songs conducted by Rattle (Serenade, Nocturne, Illuminations, etc.)
Natalie Dessay's Strauss CD
Schwarzkopf singing Strauss's Four Last Songs and some other Strauss songs on a CD that EMI likes to re-re-release
The only Mozart songs (and Haydn and Beethoven)I have are sung by DFD, on a three CD set EMI issued as "From the Archives" or something similar.
Vaughn Williams--Five Mystical Songs (Thomas Allen on Hyperion, on the same CD as the Corydon Singers performing the sixteen singer version of Serenade to Music) and Songs of Travel (Allen again, but this time on EMI), and On Wenlock Edge--I don't have the CD handy, so I don't know who sings the recording I have.
And of course with Schubert there's more than enough on the ground, you can probably just stick your hand out blindly and find a good recording.    But to avoid the usual route of the three major song cycles,  you might want to try Goerne's series on Harmonia Mundi, now up to 6 volumes (four of which consist of non cycle songs) and of course there are the Hyperion and Naxos series, and the DFD omnibus.
Schumann--EMI issued a set for his anniversary year that included Scenes from Faust and several CDs worth of songs by Bar and others, and Fink recording the Mary Stuart songs and some others for Harmonia Mundi.

ETA: almost forgot--Elgar's Sea Pictures as sung by Janet Baker with Barbirolli,  which EMI has taken to re-release as the filler/coupling for the DuPre Cello Concerto recording. and von Otter sings some Sibelius songs in the BIS "Essential Sibelius" box, which I presume means you can find as an individual CD somewhere.

Sammy

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on April 24, 2012, 08:17:29 PM
I'm not much of a lieder person, but I like (you'll note that most of this is orchestral lieder:  does that matter to you?)--

No, that's fine with me and thanks for your recommendations.

Sammy

How about recordings devoted to Mozart's songs?  I'm aware of an Hyperion disc and a 2-cd set on Naxos.  Comments on those two and any others are appreciated.   

Cato


Allow me to recommend the 6 Orchestral Songs by Alexander Zemlinsky.  Nice 2-disc set with other wonderful works:


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If that hooks you, then you might want to try this: Barbara Bonney AND Anne-Sofie von Otter:

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- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Sammy

Quote from: Cato on April 25, 2012, 05:09:51 PM
Allow me to recommend the 6 Orchestral Songs by Alexander Zemlinsky.  Nice 2-disc set with other wonderful works:


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If that hooks you, then you might want to try this: Barbara Bonney AND Anne-Sofie von Otter:

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Excellent recommendations - already have them.  Zemlinsky's a favorite of mine. 

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: Cato on April 25, 2012, 05:09:51 PM

If that hooks you, then you might want to try this: Barbara Bonney AND Anne-Sofie von Otter:

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That one reminds me of this one:







Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

kishnevi

[facepalm]
How could I forget Nuits d'Ete!  the Lorraine Hunt Lieberson recording is great,  but is (slightly bizarrely) coupled with Handel.
And (facepalm the second)  Szymanowski's songs from Hafiz, which I have as part of a very serviceable Naxos recording,  but I have no idea of what other recordings are available.

Dancing Divertimentian

Not to forget Janacek's great song cycle:



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Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach