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Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« on: November 23, 2017, 01:58:54 AM »
I've got a recording of this by the Julliard/Firkusny which I like but I feel that there could easily be a better recording of this work. What do you like?
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2017, 02:17:12 AM »


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(the sound is for some reason not as good as on Panocha/Panenka above though)

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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2017, 02:17:55 AM »
You may also wish to trial this new release—I haven't heard it yet.


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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2017, 02:26:23 AM »
Firkusny/Juilliard is good, maybe a little dry (which also holds for the sound). The piece seems almost indestructible, I have probably heard at least half a dozen and none was weak. Rubinstein/Guarneri is justly famous as are various recordings of Czech quartets (e.g. Smetana) with Czech pianists whose names I forgot. These are all in good analogue sound, not sure about a more recent recording (I have another one in that red Supraphon box Panocha+Pianist).
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2017, 02:42:36 AM »
I think Czech ensembles have the market locked up on this piece honestly—I have two non-Czech versions (Rubinstein/Guarneri and Pressler/Emerson) but I don't find them competitive to be honest.

That said I find the Hála/Smetana & Luisada/Talich versions to be somewhat too hard driven so it may not be a nationality thing. There may be a satisfactory non-Czech ensemble out there. Who knows. (I have not yet heard, eg, the Leipziger Streichquartett with Zacharias)
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2017, 02:54:41 AM »
I believe this is one uses a period piano.

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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2017, 04:18:54 AM »
You may also wish to trial this new release—I haven't heard it yet.


I have listened to it and it is excellent.  From the recording engineers point of view, I find the sound a bit too bright for my taste.  I have also the Pressler/Quatuor Ebene live recording.  Because of the concert Hall noise, it is not ideal. 

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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2017, 04:59:23 AM »
As usual, I went with Hyperion and one of the many incarnations of "chamber group with Susan Tomes as pianist".

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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2017, 05:55:49 AM »
I've got a recording of this by the Julliard/Firkusny which I like but I feel that there could easily be a better recording of this work. What do you like?

 Above all I like a quirky one, with Richter and the Borodins. That's the one that helped me enjoy something in the music more than all the rest. I have a memory that The Janacek Quartet was very good too.

I've got some concert recordings and LP transfers which you can explore if you want, Leonskaja, Peter Serkin.

I'm not crazy about this quintet so you probably should ignore me.
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2017, 06:14:48 AM »


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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2017, 10:21:16 AM »
Janacek/Bernathova is probably only available in the Janacek Quartet box by Universal. (Their Franck and Shostakovich apparently never appeared on CD.)
There are several with the Smetana; I have Smetana/Pavel Stepan (which I do not remember as "driven") on  a Japanese issue (+Schumann).


 
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2017, 05:09:46 PM »
I very much like Pressler and the Emersons (although I know not everyone is a fan of this quartet):

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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2017, 06:59:04 PM »
I didn't realise that Richter had recorded this and with the Borodin's to boot. It will be my first port of call on Spotify. I'l also check out the other recommendations. I really like the last two releases by the Pavel Haas quartet so they will be high on the listening list.
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2017, 11:22:27 AM »
I have this one:






And this one:






But my favorite is this one:



As usual, I went with Hyperion and one of the many incarnations of "chamber group with Susan Tomes as pianist".




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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2017, 01:56:04 PM »
Haefliger/Takács is another great one:

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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2017, 03:17:42 AM »


Melos Quartet



Curzon/Vienna Octet

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Peter Serkin, Schneider et al



Rubinstein/Guarneri
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2017, 03:21:14 AM »


if I had to pick one, I guess the one by Richter/Borodin would be my favourite
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2017, 10:14:30 AM »


if I had to pick one, I guess the one by Richter/Borodin would be my favourite

Yes, I heard it on Spotify and it’s excellent. However, based on reviews here and elsewhere I stumped up for the other recording by Richter and the Borodins and it’s even better. This is a live stereo recording from 1982 and it’s available on the Yedang label. Amazon still has two new copies left if you’re interested.
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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2017, 10:28:36 AM »
Yes, I heard it on Spotify and it’s excellent. However, based on reviews here and elsewhere I stumped up for the other recording by Richter and the Borodins and it’s even better. This is a live stereo recording from 1982 and it’s available on the Yedang label. Amazon still has two new copies left if you’re interested.

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Re: Dvorak Op 81 Piano Quintet
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2017, 02:57:02 AM »


if I had to pick one, I guess the one by Richter/Borodin would be my favourite
I have not listened to this for ages, but remember finding it a bit too slow and a little lifeless at times...

I'm very curious to hear the Pavel Haas with Giltburg, must sample it on Spotify!