Favorite Bruckner Interpreters

Started by TheGSMoeller, February 02, 2013, 04:28:07 PM

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Your favorite Bruckner interpreters.

Abbado
0 (0%)
Barenboim
6 (9.4%)
Blomstedt
1 (1.6%)
Bohm
6 (9.4%)
Celibidache
13 (20.3%)
Chailly
4 (6.3%)
Dohnanyi
1 (1.6%)
Eschenbach
0 (0%)
Furtwangler
8 (12.5%)
Haitink
4 (6.3%)
Harnoncourt
1 (1.6%)
Herreweghe
0 (0%)
Inbal
0 (0%)
Jochum
25 (39.1%)
Karajan
15 (23.4%)
Klemperer
2 (3.1%)
Lopez-Cobos
0 (0%)
Maazel
2 (3.1%)
Nagano
1 (1.6%)
Norrington
0 (0%)
Rattle
0 (0%)
Sinopoli
1 (1.6%)
Solti
2 (3.1%)
Tennstedt
3 (4.7%)
Thielemann
1 (1.6%)
Tintner
5 (7.8%)
Walter
1 (1.6%)
Wand
20 (31.3%)
Kubelik
3 (4.7%)
Giulini
12 (18.8%)
Boulez
0 (0%)
Skrowaczewski
6 (9.4%)
Schuricht
4 (6.3%)
Young
2 (3.1%)
Bongartz
0 (0%)
Venzago
0 (0%)
Russell Davies
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 64

MishaK

Quote from: Cato on February 04, 2013, 08:45:58 AM
Amazon has mainly rave reviews for her SACD recordings, some of which however are already out of print.

She uses the original version of the Bruckner Symphony #8 which has a triumphal end for the first movement.

Does anyone here at GMG know these?  I assume Aukhawk does!   8)

I have. Forgettable, actually. The rave reviews are understandable if you've never heard the original versions. I thought they were pretty decent performances too, until I heard Inbal, Schaller and Nagano, all of whom have recorded much more compelling performances of the original versions of these symphonies that hold together much better. I'd skip Young completely, especially at the premium SACD prices.

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 07, 2013, 06:34:12 PM
I can't believe I'm the only one who's voted for Kubelik. Hasn't anyone else heard his stunning (live) 9th on Orfeo? This alone should put him on the map.

Quote from: Daverz on February 07, 2013, 06:42:30 PM
Sure, but this 9th is the only Kubelik Bruckner I've heard.  I have particular fond memories of when we played it at the Brucknerthon and a passing Amtrak train joined in with the horns at the end.

I voted for Kubelik. One of my all time favorite conductors and in my mind one of the greatest Brucknerians. Don't forget these discs:

[asin]B00442M0NA[/asin]

Magnificent live B8 (better - both in sound quality and execution - than an earlier Orfeo release).

[asin]B0056K4VZO[/asin]

This set contains his Sony studio recordings of B4 and B3, which were previously available only in Japan as individual releases. The 3 is great, but the live version on audite below is probably a notch more, well, "alive". The 4 is my absolute favorite 4. I rate it more highly than Böhm or Wand or any of the other great 4s. The way Kubelik manages to pace the codas of the outer movements is simply glorious and a crowning of the traversal of each respective movement.

[asin]B0058SHV4M[/asin]

Aforementioned live B3.

[asin]B000OONQ2G[/asin]

Includes a performance of B4 with VPO. Excellent but not quite on the level of the BRSO studio 4 on Sony.

Leo K.

Quote from: karlhenning on February 08, 2013, 07:22:35 AM
So, for which three did you vote?

Hi Karl, I voted for Furtwangler, Maazel and Wand. Wand is my top choice :)

Cato

Rafael Kubelik is not to be forgotten for his Mahler or Hartmann performances.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Leo K.

Quote from: Cato on February 08, 2013, 09:57:03 AM
Rafael Kubelik is not to be forgotten for his Mahler or Hartmann performances.

Most definitely!

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: MishaK on February 08, 2013, 08:48:50 AM
I voted for Kubelik. One of my all time favorite conductors and in my mind one of the greatest Brucknerians. Don't forget these discs:

Samples of that third sound enticing, indeed. Thanks for the mention.



Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

david johnson

bongartz was not on the list when i voted.  i hereby cast a vote for him  :)

trung224

#46
 I vote for Furtwängler, Knappertsbusch, Karajan.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 08, 2013, 08:32:36 PM
Samples of that third sound enticing, indeed. Thanks for the mention.

His 3rd is AWESOME, DD! Go for it! Buy it now! :D

TheGSMoeller

What edition is Kubelik?

I'm finding myself separating the recordings of different editions (mainly with the 3rd and 4th) because they differ so much it's almost as if listening to an entirely different work.

 

Sergeant Rock

#49
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on February 20, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
What edition is Kubelik?

1878 Version Oeser. No Scherzo coda. Same version used by Haitink, Barenboim, Dohnányi and a few others.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on February 20, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
What edition is Kubelik?

I'm finding myself separating the recordings of different editions (mainly with the 3rd and 4th) because they differ so much it's almost as if listening to an entirely different work.

I'm maintaining a safe distance from the lip of that rabbit-hole, believe me : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on February 20, 2013, 10:03:27 AM
1878 Version Oeser. No Scherzo coda. Same version used by Haitink, Barenboim, Dohnányi and a few others.

Sarge

Merci!

Mirror Image

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on February 20, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
What edition is Kubelik?

I'm finding myself separating the recordings of different editions (mainly with the 3rd and 4th) because they differ so much it's almost as if listening to an entirely different work.



The 1877/78 version.

Karl Henning

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on February 20, 2013, 10:06:56 AM
Merci!

Our Sarge is a marvel : )

Incidentally:  I find that I have a duplicate copy of the Jesús López-Cobos/Cincinnati recording of the Sixth Symphony. It's free to a good home; PM me if you would like it.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Leo K.

I've been enjoying rozhdestvensky's Bruckner this week, I'm hearing different editions of these symphonies as a result, quite interesting!

Whew, the discography of Rozhdestvensky's Bruckner is a mess.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Leo K. on February 20, 2013, 12:55:36 PM

Whew, the discography of Rozhdestvensky's Bruckner is a mess.

As is Svetlanov's Myaskovsky.

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: Mirror Image on February 20, 2013, 09:53:40 AM
His 3rd is AWESOME, DD! Go for it! Buy it now! :D

Whoa...I just realized I have Kubelik's studio 3rd! I'd totally forgotten I had it - it was a gift from a friend.

I'll give that one listen MI and report back. :)


Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Mirror Image

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 20, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
Whoa...I just realized I have Kubelik's studio 3rd! I'd totally forgotten I had it - it was a gift from a friend.

I'll give that one listen MI and report back. :)

I love his live 3rd, so I'll be interested in hearing your opinion, DD.

MishaK

Quote from: Leo K. on February 20, 2013, 12:55:36 PM
I've been enjoying rozhdestvensky's Bruckner this week, I'm hearing different editions of these symphonies as a result, quite interesting!

Whew, the discography of Rozhdestvensky's Bruckner is a mess.

Tell me about it! I tried to listen to some of the stuff on Spotify. According to Berky, Rozh recorded just about every version of every symphony available to him at the time, but all the Rozh Bruckner recordings on Spotify appear to be multiple issues of just the standard later versions with various covers and in varying sound qualities. Interesting though Rozh is at times, the Russian brass just kills me. Especially the kazoo section... I mean, the trumpets.

Brian

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 20, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
Whoa...I just realized I have Kubelik's studio 3rd! I'd totally forgotten I had it - it was a gift from a friend.

I'll give that one listen MI and report back. :)

MI, that studio 3rd is the one I said I had found a thriller. It's in this:

[asin]B0056K4VZO[/asin]

along with Mozart (that I wasn't as fond of) and Schumann (that I certainly was).