What are you listening to now?

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Jay F

Bartok/Emerson:

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Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

JS Bach
Prelude & Fugue in D, BWV 532
Helmut Walcha


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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

JS Bach
Prelude & Fugue in e minor, BWV 533
Helmut Walcha


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JS Bach
Prelude & Fugue in D, BWV 532
Ton Koopman
Arp Schnitger organ, built 1689-93, St.-Jacobi-Kirche, Hamburg


Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

No surprise, I suppose:

JS Bach
Prelude & Fugue in e minor, BWV 533
Ton Koopman
Arp Schnitger organ, built 1689-93, St.-Jacobi-Kirche, Hamburg


Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Jay F

Is this

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better than this?

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or this?

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jlaurson

Quote from: Jay F on July 08, 2013, 12:14:45 PM
Is this


better than this?



or this?


The top and bottom are the mono set... the below the original and carefully done remastered set from Archiv, the above the "It's out of copyright so it's not stealing if we take someone else's remaster, right" version from Membran.

The middle one is the stereo set, in very much considerably better sound, and stereo. And I, though there are diverging opinions about this nearby, also get much, much greater satisfaction out of the playing of the second set... though it's intrinsically linked with the sound which I don't think is particularly good even on most of the Archiv set.

Jay F

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Quote from: jlaurson on July 08, 2013, 12:48:05 PM
The top and bottom are the mono set... the below the original and carefully done remastered set from Archiv, the above the "It's out of copyright so it's not stealing if we take someone else's remaster, right" version from Membran.

The middle one is the stereo set, in very much considerably better sound, and stereo. And I, though there are diverging opinions about this nearby, also get much, much greater satisfaction out of the playing of the second set... though it's intrinsically linked with the sound which I don't think is particularly good even on most of the Archiv set.

Thanks. I never noticed that the label on the first one wasn't Archiv.

I'm now listening to Barshai's Shostakovich Symphony No. 3, from my newly acquired MP3 set. I'm new to this music. I like it. Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/Shostakovich-Symphonies/dp/B00D1SFV5W/ref=sr_1_1_title_1_mus?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1373317867&sr=1-1&keywords=barshai+shostakovich


Lisztianwagner

Claude Debussy
Suite bergamasque


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"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Lisztianwagner

On spotify, first listen to:

Arnold Schoenberg
Die gluckliche Hand


"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Gold Knight

Franz Schubert--Symphony No.2 in B-Flat Major, D 125 and Symphony No.6 in C Major, D 589, both featuring the Royal Concertgebouw   Orchestra led by Nikolaus Harnoncourt.
Antonin Dvorak--Symphony No.7 in D Minor, Op.70 and Symphony No.8 in G Major, Op.88. Both works are spiritedly traversed by Witold Rowicki and the London Symphony Orchestra.

Wakefield

Quote from: jlaurson on July 08, 2013, 12:48:05 PM
The top and bottom are the mono set... the below the original and carefully done remastered set from Archiv, the above the "It's out of copyright so it's not stealing if we take someone else's remaster, right" version from Membran.

I have two (or three) questions for you, Jens: Do you think copyright should be perpetual? Or, at least, do you believe the current 70-years term of protection is too short? I'm not thinking of this particular case, but I'm interested in your personal position about copyright.

Do you have any foundation to state that Membran has stolen the remastering of someone else?

:)
"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."
- Almost Famous (2000)

Wakefield

Beethoven: Complete String Quartets
Suske Quartett
Brilliant Classics, 7 CDs

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Disc 1: String Quartets Nos. 1-3
Recording 1977, Lukaskirche, Dresden

:)
"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."
- Almost Famous (2000)

listener

another recording of the TANEIEV Concerto Suite  with the GLAZUNOV Violin concerto
David Oistrakh, violin      National Philharmonic Orch.      Kondrashin, cond.
Harry SOMERS: Suite for Harp and Chamber Orchestra   (Judy Loman, harp)
PAPINEAU-COUTURE: Pièce Concertante no.1 for piano and string orch. (Mario Bernardi, piano)
The second half being a retrograde inversion of the first half, or something like that.  No graph paper supplied.
Murray ADASKIN: Serenade Concertante
CBC Symphony Orch. (Toronto)     Walter Susskind, cond.
The Somers and Adaskin pieces are quite listenable, the  Papineau-Couture is like a lecture on calculus delivered in Albanian, one waits for some kind of end.
Jan SEIDEL: Oboe Concerto no.2   
Josef Shejbal, oboe     Czech Philharmonic Orch.    Karel Ančerl, cond.
RÖSSLER-ROSETTI: Concerto for 2 Horns in Eb
Miroslav Stefek, Vladimir Kubát, horns   Prague Symphony Orch.,  Vaclav Smetáček, cond.
"Keep your hand on the throttle and your eye on the rail as you walk through life's pathway."

Que


jlaurson

Quote from: Gordon Shumway on July 08, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
I have two (or three) questions for you, Jens: Do you think copyright should be perpetual? Or, at least, do you believe the current 70-years term of protection is too short? I'm not thinking of this particular case, but I'm interested in your personal position about copyright.

Do you have any foundation to state that Membran has stolen the remastering of someone else?

:)

To answer briefly: No. Not at all. I think 70/95/120 years  (not that it's fixed... it will continue to be nudged along and extended under false pretenses, as long as Mickey Mouse - and the Beatles, in Europe - are threatened to fall out of protection) is already on the long side, actually.

If you haven't been able to monetize your work 50 years after you're dead, it's time to let someone else take a crack. Arbitrarily (or rather: cynically) extended copyright stifles competition and innovation. Any one number cannot do justice entirely to every case and scenario, but I think somewhere in the realm of the 50/70apm makes sense... and even that hinges on a handful of cases, where in 99.995028% of cases, a copyright longer than 10 or 20apm doesn't have any real effect.

I do strongly believe in the copyright protection of current work, though, and I think that a remaster would fall under that... although it's never been tested in court yet, whether it'll hold up. Presumably it would, but the cost/outlay would be considerable and isn't worth it in the cases we're talking about... when a reissue brings in a couple thousand Euros at best.

But let's just say that if it ever comes to court, and boy do I hope it does, Membran will be there and won't likely be sitting in the plaintiff's box.

I have it from at least two labels who confirmed to me that they know when and who takes remasters. They suggest that with some violations, it's ignorance as much as ill will, and that even the majors are not necessarily immune from violating remaster-rights... but that there's one candidate who is a systematic offender.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on July 08, 2013, 02:45:51 PM
On spotify, first listen to:

Arnold Schoenberg
Die gluckliche Hand




Somewhere, anime Greg is pounding a tea table.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

North Star

Some Crafty Schoenberg for me, too:

Concerto for String Quartet and Orchestra in B flat
Fred Sherry String Quartet, Robert Craft & Twentieth Century Classics Ensemble
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"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

My photographs on Flickr

Lisztianwagner

Good morning everyone. :)

Arnold Schoenberg
Chamber Symphony No.2


"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg