What are you listening to now?

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prémont

Quote from: Gordon Shumway on May 01, 2013, 01:59:52 PM

MO O411: Bach: Clavierübung, parts II & III - Peter Watchorn (harpsichord)
MO 0412: Bach, Six Partitas, BWV 825 – 830  - Peter Watchorn (harpsichord)
MO 0505: Bach: Toccatas, BWV 910-916 - Peter Watchorn (harpsichord)
MO 0506: Bach: Sonatas, Suites, Capriccios - Peter Watchorn (harpsichord)
MO 0507: Bach: Concerto arrangements, BWV 972-987; 592a Peter Watchorn (harpsichord)
MO 0511: Bach: Die Kunst der Fuge, BWV 1080 - Peter Watchorn (harpsichord)

. Remarkably, so far the Goldbergs aren't mentioned.

Maybe a misprint, and should be Clavierübung parts II and IV.

Wonder if he also is going to re-use his recordings for Haenssler of the Toccatas and the Concerto arrangements.
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prémont

Quote from: Gordon Shumway on May 01, 2013, 06:59:25 PM
...the preludes added by Watchorn at the beginning of every suite. Watchorn argues good reasons to justify this addition....

To make historical sense such a prelude should be improvised. Does Watchorn do this or has he chosen some preludes by Bach.

I think it is difficult in Bach´s ouvre to find suitable preludes for the French suites. Cates has chosen to do so, but I think the result is less then convincing.
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Wakefield

Quote from: (: premont :) on May 02, 2013, 06:15:44 AM
Maybe a misprint, and should be Clavierübung parts II and IV.
Elementary, my dear Watson! At least, one of us is thinking with some logic.  :)
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Mirror Image

Quote from: Octave on May 01, 2013, 09:46:23 PMThat's ridiculous, dude.  A huge amount of creative activity firmly following in the wake of all that early minimalism has been produced.  The fact that most of it is outside the concert hall doesn't mean that minimalism is/was a "dead-end street".  Exactly the contrary.  Creative minimal music and art have already had a good enough run to belong to the history books, alongside any other creative trends, tribes, or pockets that Western music has yielded.  The momentum is already theirs.

I'm not talking about the concert hall, but rather my opinion is that Minimalism has been exhausted. How much further can it go? I think the early works of most Minimalists are quite interesting with the exception of Glass and Reich. Haven't bothered with Terry Riley or La Monte Young. Anyway, there has been progression in the movement, yes, no doubt, but, for me, after Adams' seminal works, it grew stale and tiresome which led to the genre of post-Minimalism. Adams, for example, still loves Minimalism but fully admits that he had find other avenues of expression as most working within the genre have ended up or will end up doing. That's just my opinion.

prémont

Quote from: Gordon Shumway on May 02, 2013, 06:22:27 AM
Elementary, my dear Watson! At least, one of us is thinking with some logic.  :)

Always at you service, dear Gordon.  :)
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Wakefield

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Quote from: (: premont :) on May 02, 2013, 06:22:14 AM
To make historical sense such a prelude should be improvised. Does Watchorn do this or has he chosen some preludes by Bach.

I think it is difficult in Bach´s ouvre to find suitable preludes for the French suites. Cates has chosen to do so, but I think the result is less then convincing.

He has chosen preludes by Bach himself (BWV 875a, 999, 923, 815a, BWV 902a, 855/i). The only real improvisation is found in the prelude of the third suite (BWV 923), just partially notated by Bach. 


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SonicMan46

Bach, JSEnglish Suites w/ Peter Watchorn on a harpsichord by Walter & Berta Burr (Hoosick, NY) after Stehlin, 1760.  For those interested, after some negative comments by Jan Hanford, Watchorn replies w/ much detail on harpsichord construction & playing - HERE - :)


Brian

Quote from: Octave on May 01, 2013, 09:21:27 PMI still need to act on some more GMG Glass recommendations, though.  My recently-purchased VIOLIN CONCERTO first, then maybe that new recording of Symph 3 that Brian mentioned.  I'm afraid too many movies [w/Glass scores] have blunted my responsiveness to his thang.

My favorite Glass is the music that doesn't sound the same as all his other music - music that's in some way distinctive or different or worth singling out. Violin Concerto, Symphony No. 3, Trilogy Sonata, a couple film scores (Dracula's piano reduction). I also like Glass on harp because it's perfect nighttime lights-dimmed calming down after a long day music. (I haven't heard nearly as much of his music as, say, GS Moeller, who could probably name some more.)

Wakefield

Quote from: SonicMan46 on May 02, 2013, 06:44:40 AM
Bach, JSEnglish Suites w/ Peter Watchorn on a harpsichord by Walter & Berta Burr (Hoosick, NY) after Stehlin, 1760.  For those interested, after some negative comments by Jan Hanford, Watchorn replies w/ much detail on harpsichord construction & playing - HERE - :)



When Don reviewed the same recording on the bach-cantatas site (at least, I read it there), Peter Watchorn also wrote a reply, although, IIRC, Don's view of this version was quite positive.
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prémont

#4532
Quote from: Gordon Shumway on May 02, 2013, 06:37:33 AM
He has chosen preludes by Bach himself (BWV 875a, 813, 923, 815a, BWV 902a, 855/i). The only real improvisation is found in the prelude of the third suite (BWV 923), just partially notated by Bach.

BWV 813 doesn´t tell me much, as this is the BWV no. of the second French suite.

BWV 855? not 854??

BWV 923, which I find too big and searching for the third French suite (Cates uses this prelude too), is to a large extent notated with chords, which cannot be played plain in a sensible way, and which obviously should be arpeggiated and ornamentated, much in the way of the chordal notation in BWV 903 (Chromatic Fantasy) or the prelude to the a-minor fugue BWV 944.  So Watchorn had no other choice, having chosen this prelude.
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Wakefield

Quote from: (: premont :) on May 02, 2013, 07:05:09 AM
BWV 855? not 854??

Yes, I have revised the numeration of the WTC and the prelude included is numbered BWV 854, not BWV 855.

Another misprinting.

I'm curious: do you remember, for instance, the WTC by catalogue number?  :)
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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: DavidRoss on May 02, 2013, 06:55:26 AM


One of my first Glass purchases. Have you heard this choral arrangement of Liquid Days?


Karl Henning

Hey, those are the three choruses we sang. What's the date on that recording, Greg, d'you know?
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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: karlhenning on May 02, 2013, 08:04:18 AM
Hey, those are the three choruses we sang. What's the date on that recording, Greg, d'you know?

Looks like a 2000 release. Here's some info on Glass' own site
I believe it's OOP.

TheGSMoeller


prémont

#4539
Quote from: Gordon Shumway
I'm curious: do you remember, for instance, the WTC by catalogue number?  :)

Not in other way, than the Major works in WTC have even BWV numbers.

Generally I remember Bach´s harpsichord works in collections (Inventions, WTC, Partitas and so on) by title and mode.
Many of the other harpsichord works I remember by BWV number.

But the musical content of all these works I remember of course as music.
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