Most Underrated Composers

Started by ibanezmonster, March 27, 2013, 09:52:05 AM

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ibanezmonster

I did a search and got nothing... I thought there was already a thread for this.


Several come to mind:
Atterberg
Pettersson
Lachenmann
Braga Santos

Sammy

Cras
Rontgen
Zelenka
Gade
Miaskovsky
Weinberg
Medtner
Andreae
Froberger
Louis Couperin
Ropartz
Le Flem
Aho

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mirror Image

I agree with your choices of Atterberg, Pettersson, and Braga Santos, Greg. All excellent choices. A few of mine:

Delius (!!!)
Villa-Lobos
Honegger
Milhaud
Myaskovsky
Chavez
Revueltas
Ginastera
Rubbra
Sculthorpe
Vine
William Schuman
Casella
Malipiero
Pizzetti
Howells
Finzi
Freitas Branco
Madetoja

Opus106

Regards,
Navneeth

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

The new erato

Probably someone I haven't heard of.

mszczuj

Without any doubt Joseph Haydn.

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Opus106 on March 27, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
More here and here; and on a tangent, here and here.
No wonder the search didn't bring up the term "underrated."


Quote from: The new erato on March 27, 2013, 11:19:29 AM
Probably someone I haven't heard of.
;D



Hmmm... I might check out some Couperin, to start.

Johnll

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 27, 2013, 10:11:40 AM
I agree with your choices of Atterberg, Pettersson, and Braga Santos, Greg. All excellent choices. A few of mine:

Delius (!!!)
Villa-Lobos
Honegger
Milhaud
Myaskovsky
Chavez
Revueltas
Ginastera
Rubbra
Sculthorpe
Vine
William Schuman
Casella
Malipiero
Pizzetti
Howells
Finzi
Freitas Branco
Madetoja

MI you promised to never change your avatar!!! Anyway cheers on the new look which I find ever so much more cheerful. Plus one on Ginastera and Rubbra. Consistency is the hobgoblin of one of those things you don't want, and someday you might like Bach and I Delius.

Brahmsian

Taneyev.  Very underrated, when compared to his more 'famous' compatriots.  Perhaps undeservedly so, but who cares?  ;D  I enjoy his music very much so, and he's my third favourite Russian composer after Shostakovich and Tchaikovsky.  Yes, I enjoy him even more than Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Mussorgsky and Rachmaninov (and I really, really, really love the music of these composers).

Perhaps my Taneyev is John's Delius!  :)


Mirror Image

Quote from: Johnll on March 27, 2013, 03:56:58 PM
MI you promised to never change your avatar!!! Anyway cheers on the new look which I find ever so much more cheerful. Plus one on Ginastera and Rubbra. Consistency is the hobgoblin of one of those things you don't want, and someday you might like Bach and I Delius.

Yeah, I know, but I've said many things that I could never actually commit to. ;) I think I'll give Bach's sacred choral works a shot at some point as I'm quite attracted to music for larger forces. What's so interesting is I can understand why so many people dislike Delius' music but, at the same time, people can't understand why I don't like Bach. I never understood this kind of mentality. Oh well, Delius isn't the only composer I love. Anyway, Ginastera and Rubbra have been favorites for many years and it still saddens me that not much has been recorded of their music. Rubbra might be even more underrated than Ginastera.

Superhorn

    Most of the composers mentioned here are not so much "underrated" and underappreciated and unjustly neglected .
All of them have their admirers .   

Brahmsian

Quote from: Superhorn on March 27, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
    Most of the composers mentioned here are not so much "underrated" and underappreciated and unjustly neglected .
All of them have their admirers .

A true and fair statement.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: mszczuj on March 27, 2013, 11:55:03 AM
Without any doubt Joseph Haydn.

Thanks, saved me from saying it. He is the sine qua non of everything post 1770. Too few realize it. :)

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Brahmsian

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on March 27, 2013, 05:54:01 PM
Thanks, saved me from saying it. He is the sine qua non of everything post 1770. Too few realize it. :)

8)

In the grand scheme of things, I can't honestly disagree.  He was such a towering figure, and powerful influence on so many composers spanning many eras.

He is underrated in a sense.  He should be spoken of being at the same level at least, as Mozart and Beethoven, and not as the 'next great one after these two' vein.

mahler10th

Quote from: Greg on March 27, 2013, 09:52:05 AM
I did a search and got nothing... I thought there was already a thread for this.
Several come to mind:
Atterberg
Pettersson
Lachenmann
Braga Santos

Atterberg!  Yaay! 

Opus106

I hate to do this... serisouly!

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 27, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
What's so interesting is I can understand why so many people dislike Delius' music but, at the same time, people can't understand why I don't like Bach.

Dude, you have it mixed up. There are many people who like and listen to Delius (have you been to the 'Listening' thread lately?), but it is you who go out of your way to make yourself appear silly (and taking that as a cue, we just bully you and make fun of Delius for the sake of it :P ;)).

Thread duty: *wishes he could say something useful here*.... :-[
Regards,
Navneeth

The new erato

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 27, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
Yeah, I know, but I've said many things that I could never actually commit to. ;) I think I'll give Bach's sacred choral works a shot at some point as I'm quite attracted to music for larger forces. What's so interesting is I can understand why so many people dislike Delius' music but, at the same time, people can't understand why I don't like Bach. I never understood this kind of mentality. Oh well, Delius isn't the only composer I love. Anyway, Ginastera and Rubbra have been favorites for many years and it still saddens me that not much has been recorded of their music. Rubbra might be even more underrated than Ginastera.
You've got it all wrong. The problem is your tendency to equate "I like" with "greatest of all time" and vice versa, as well as using "snobbery" and cowtowing to "academia" as reasons for people disagreeing with you. Stop doing that (aka be a little humble and admit that you don't know it all), and we're fine with you loving Delius and disliking Bach.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: ChamberNut on March 27, 2013, 05:59:18 PM
In the grand scheme of things, I can't honestly disagree.  He was such a towering figure, and powerful influence on so many composers spanning many eras.

He is underrated in a sense.  He should be spoken of being at the same level at least, as Mozart and Beethoven, and not as the 'next great one after these two' vein.

Yes, that is the sense I meant it in. :)

8)
Visit my Haydn blog: HaydnSeek

Haydn: that genius of vulgar music who induces an inordinate thirst for beer - Mily Balakirev (1860)