Vaughan Williams's Veranda

[Mirror Image]

aargh - £80 sterling plus postage - that looks fantastic but outside of my budget for now.  Let us know how it compares to the most recent(?) Warner mastering.  If you say much better I'll pretend I haven't heard you!!

I'm not sure when the last remastering for Boult's RVW was, but this one was done this year. Yeah, it was an expensive box set, but since I've been impressed with the other Tower Records/Warner hybrid SACD sets I own, I'm hoping to be as impressed with it as I have been with the others I own.

[Karl Henning]

Job is excellent! Received it last Christmas.

I'm in!

[Roasted Swan]

Best I can say is: bully for him that he's managed to monetize his rants ... even though part of me thinks this is not much distance (methodologically) from the pointy-headed right-wing disinformation junkies.

I have to say that whatever my concerns about his content and style he is just about the ONLY person out there regularly generating any kind of content about CM.  And this is clearly fostering interest/debate/concern/outrage....... As they always say there is no such thing as bad publicity and CM needs all the rasing of awareness it can get and if he can make a buck out of CM I'm glad someone can.

[vandermolen]

I have similar sets of Previn's Rachmaninov, Berglund's Sibelius (w/ Bournemouth) and Kempe's Strauss. I can tell you that the quality of these recordings and packaging is superb. I bought this Boult set because it has been newly remastered --- 2022. Definitely looking forward to hearing it!

You are a bad influence 
I have two of those Japanese releases (Symphony No.8 with the Concerto for Two Pianos and No.9 with the Fantasia on the Old 104th). The notes are all in Japanese - I wonder if that's the same in the new boxed set.

[Biffo]

You are a bad influence 
I have two of those Japanese releases (Symphony No.8 with the Concerto for Two Pianos and No.9 with the Fantasia on the Old 104th). The notes are all in Japanese - I wonder if that's the same in the new boxed set.

Does this mean the symphonies are are available separately? I am only really interested in remastered versions of Nos 2, 3 & 5 from the Boult cycle.

[Karl Henning]

I have to say that whatever my concerns about his content and style he is just about the ONLY person out there regularly generating any kind of content about CM.  And this is clearly fostering interest/debate/concern/outrage....... As they always say there is no such thing as bad publicity and CM needs all the rasing of awareness it can get and if he can make a buck out of CM I'm glad someone can.

Point well taken. Although part of me still cringes at the "the sweaty clown car is better than no wheels" thought.

[Karl Henning]

You are a bad influence 
I have two of those Japanese releases (Symphony No.8 with the Concerto for Two Pianos and No.9 with the Fantasia on the Old 104th). The notes are all in Japanese - I wonder if that's the same in the new boxed set.

I took Japanese classes for three years, which with so difficult a language means, I never got to be the least use in it. Apart from surprising some tourists in a London hotel by excusing myself in Japanese (in 1987, probably)

[Mirror Image]

You are a bad influence 
I have two of those Japanese releases (Symphony No.8 with the Concerto for Two Pianos and No.9 with the Fantasia on the Old 104th). The notes are all in Japanese - I wonder if that's the same in the new boxed set.

I'm sure this will be the case, Jeffrey, but, trust me, the sonics more than make up for a lack of English texts. I'm sure there will be some English notes, but mainly in regards to tracklisting, performers and recording information.

[vandermolen]

I'm sure this will be the case, Jeffrey, but, trust me, the sonics more than make up for a lack of English texts. I'm sure there will be some English notes, but mainly in regards to tracklisting, performers and recording information.

OK thanks John.

[foxandpeng]

I know the feeling. I seem to be the only person on GMG who likes Manze's cycle.

As for Job--my suggestion


Elder has done it (it's coupled with Songs of Travel, but I haven't heard it. I have two installments of Elder's cycle, but they didn't impress me.

Yeah, the Manze cycle works fine for me. Happy to restate my appreciation for the Elder too, while recognising that other cycles are stronger. Give me Hickox/Davis as well, or Kees Bakels. Bryden Thomson.

[JBS]

Yeah, the Manze cycle works fine for me. Happy to restate my appreciation for the Elder too, while recognising that other cycles are stronger. Give me Hickox/Davis as well, or Kees Bakels. Bryden Thomson.

So I'm not alone!

I just got the Bakels/Daniels, but not yet listened to it.

[LKB]

...In other news, I see there's a Tower Records/Warner Classics hybrid SACD release of the classic Adrian Boult cycle:

Oh boy.

As it happens, I've never owned the Boult cycle, and have been impressed with the few Japanese specialty recordings I've purchased. So this is the perfect trap, my wallet will never escape.

Somewhere, a marketing hack at Warner is twirling his mustache and snickering.

[Spotted Horses]

You are a bad influence 
I have two of those Japanese releases (Symphony No.8 with the Concerto for Two Pianos and No.9 with the Fantasia on the Old 104th). The notes are all in Japanese - I wonder if that's the same in the new boxed set.

All of the CD releases of the Boult/RVW symphonies are 1989 or 1991, so a new master has the potential to be a noticeable improvement. Hopefully the new transfers will end up available for hirez download so it won't be necessary to buy the obscenely overpriced fetish Japanese release.

[Mirror Image]

Oh boy.

As it happens, I've never owned the Boult cycle, and have been impressed with the few Japanese specialty recordings I've purchased. So this is the perfect trap, my wallet will never escape.

Somewhere, a marketing hack at Warner is twirling his mustache and snickering.

I think Boult's RVW cycle on Warner is one of the best and I think you will also be impressed with the performances.

[LKB]

I think Boult's RVW cycle on Warner is one of the best and I think you will also be impressed with the performances.

To clarify, I've owned Boult's recordings of Symphonies 1 & 2 for decades, but l've never heard the rest of his cycle. And I'm a BIG fan of SACDs as well.

So yeah... trapped. 

[Roasted Swan]

All of the CD releases of the Boult/RVW symphonies are 1989 or 1991, so a new master has the potential to be a noticeable improvement. Hopefully the new transfers will end up available for hirez download so it won't be necessary to buy the obscenely overpriced fetish Japanese release.

C'mon who can resist a good fetish!!!!!!! 

[Mirror Image]

To clarify, I've owned Boult's recordings of Symphonies 1 & 2 for decades, but l've never heard the rest of his cycle. And I'm a BIG fan of SACDs as well.

So yeah... trapped. 

[Mirror Image]

All of the CD releases of the Boult/RVW symphonies are 1989 or 1991, so a new master has the potential to be a noticeable improvement. Hopefully the new transfers will end up available for hirez download so it won't be necessary to buy the obscenely overpriced fetish Japanese release.

I seriously doubt this newly remastered Boult set will be available any other way. I've never seen these Tower Records/Warner Japan releases available for download. I'm glad I bought the set and it wasn't "obscenely overpriced" since 1. the recordings receive a completely new remastering, which isn't something that can be done successfully by anyone, especially since not everyone will have access to the original analog tapes like Kousuke Fujino did and 2. the materials that are made for these box sets are amazingly durable --- if you don't own one of these Tower Records/Warner SACD sets, then you clearly don't know their worth. I believe the set to be worth what I paid for it (it's actually going for a higher price from Japanese sellers on eBay for example), but it's not about the money as much as it is about the quality of the remaster and from what I've heard from this source, I have been hugely satisfied.

[Maestro267]

Mirror Image, I panicked for a moment when I saw your profile pic changed to commemorate the RVW anniversary. For a moment I thought "is today the day?" and had I missed it? Wikipedia says October 12th so quite some time to go yet.

[Mirror Image]

Mirror Image, I panicked for a moment when I saw your profile pic changed to commemorate the RVW anniversary. For a moment I thought "is today the day?" and had I missed it? Wikipedia says October 12th so quite some time to go yet.

No need to panic. His birthday isn't until October, but the celebration will be all year long as it should be. It will actually give me an excuse to listen to some works of his that I don't know well at all like the operas The Poisoned Kiss and Sir John in Love for example. RVW's operatic output doesn't get discussed a lot aside from perhaps The Pilgrims' Progress and maybe Riders to the Sea (an absolute masterpiece, IMHO).