Vaughan Williams's Veranda

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Karl Henning

I've not heard the original Piano Concerto for any comparison . . . but I am much enjoying making the acquakntance of the Concerto for Two Pianos.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

That Finale alla tedesca has something of a RVW hommage à la Valse de Ravel vibe going.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: karlhenning on June 01, 2012, 11:07:57 AM
I've not heard the original Piano Concerto for any comparison . . . but I am much enjoying making the acquakntance of the Concerto for Two Pianos.

I prefer the Concerto for Two Pianos for the simple fact that the piano writing is obviously much fuller, but then again this is the version I heard first and when I listened to the version for just one piano it didn't sound quite right to me. :P

vandermolen

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My preference is also for the two piano version - especially in the Vronsky/Babin/Boult EMI recording - one of the great VW performances I think.  I like VW's late piano writing and was yesterday listening to his 'Fantasia on the Old 104th' - a remarkable work and currently one of my favourite works by the composer. If you are a VW fan and don't know this work do look it out.  The late Violin Sonata is probably with SQ No 2 my favourite piece of chamber music by Vaughan Williams.  I like the late, craggy, percussive piano writing very much. The Fantasia on the Old 104th can be found on the great, inexpensive, double album below.  Perhaps the best VW reissue CD in the EMI British Composers series as it also marked the return of Boult's fine recording of 'Dona Nobis Pacem' and Sargent's 'Tallis Fantasia' (a wonderful performance) alongside much else (Larry Adler's 'Harmonica Romance' for starters).
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Karl Henning

I need to spend proper "quality time" with the Violin Sonata. It has certainly been pleasurable to listen to it, but it has suffered (not through any 'fault' of its own!) by being on the same CD as the Elgar Violin Sonata . . . so that as a rule, when I reached for the CD, it was to listen to the Elgar, which is so rich a listen, it hasn't been fair to RVW to just keep rolling . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

Quote from: karlhenning on June 04, 2012, 05:01:34 AM
I need to spend proper "quality time" with the Violin Sonata. It has certainly been pleasurable to listen to it, but it has suffered (not through any 'fault' of its own!) by being on the same CD as the Elgar Violin Sonata . . . so that as a rule, when I reached for the CD, it was to listen to the Elgar, which is so rich a listen, it hasn't been fair to RVW to just keep rolling . . . .

Perhaps the best version Karl is by the Music Group of London (EMI) on a great all VW CD. If you get that you wont be distracted by the Elgar  :D.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Karl Henning

Quote from: vandermolen on June 04, 2012, 08:13:02 AM
[...] If you get that you wont be distracted by the Elgar  :D.

Hah!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

calyptorhynchus

Don't know whether people have spoken about VW's solo piano works before. I haven't seen many recordings of them. I have a disk on an obscure label from about 1988 which is one of my favorite disks, it has various pieces including a chorale prelude on a theme of Gibbons, a piece, The Lake in the Mountains, arranged from one of his film scores, and his arrangement of Bach's Ach bleib bei uns, Herr Jesu Christ (a Schulber Chorale). This last piece is amazing, Bach arranged a previous chorale by another composer, and VW adds a fifth part. It was written for Harriet Cohen, who apparently had four hands, or twenty fingers. Absolutely beautiful.
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

'...is it not strange that sheepes guts should hale soules out of mens bodies?' Benedick in Much Ado About Nothing

eyeresist

From an Amazon search, I'd say that was the recording played by Peter Jacobs, on Trax Classique. Cheapest Amazon marketplace version is about $64 :(

Lethevich

The Lake in the Mountains is included on a Nash Ensemble disc of his chamber works - it's a very good and atmospheric piece, it would be a nice "mystery" recital inclusion.
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vandermolen

I really like 'The Lake in the Mountains' on that very nice Hyperion disc.  Oddly enough I was wondering about VW's piano music yesterday and thinking of all the works I like which include a significant (and often 'craggy') piano part. I like these works very much:

The Lake in the Mountains (a lovely piece - not at all craggy)

Fantasia on the Old 104th (great despite opening sounding like 'Sparky's Magic Piano')

Epithalamion (lovely late work - very neglected)

Piano Concerto/Concerto for Two Pianos (obviously)

Violin Sonata.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

I was delighted to hear the Te Deum played today during the Jubilee service at St Paul's in London.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Christo

Quote from: vandermolen on June 05, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
I was delighted to hear the Te Deum played today during the Jubilee service at St Paul's in London.
Me too. Finally a Jubilee Concerto deservintg the name.  ;)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

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Quote from: Christo on June 05, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
Me too. Finally a Jubilee Concerto deservintg the name.  ;)

Re: 'The magic casements'. Lovely VW quote on your message - yes, very interesting what the 'cheerful agnostic' vicar's son had to say.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

eyeresist

Also, RVW grew up in a house which had "casements".

Elgarian

Quote from: eyeresist on June 06, 2012, 05:55:46 PM
Also, RVW grew up in a house which had "casements".

... as well as a volume of Keats's poetry:

" . . . magic casements, opening on the foam
Of perilous seas, in faery lands forlorn."

Christo

Quote from: Elgarian on June 06, 2012, 11:43:47 PM
... as well as a volume of Keats's poetry:

" . . . magic casements, opening on the foam
Of perilous seas, in faery lands forlorn."


Yes, definitely Keats, who was often in RVW's mind.
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

Thanks. Shamefully I did no realise it was from Keats (my wife's favourite poet).
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Karl Henning

Quote from: Elgarian on June 06, 2012, 11:43:47 PM
... as well as a volume of Keats's poetry:

" . . . magic casements, opening on the foam
Of perilous seas, in faery lands forlorn."


Lovely.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

eyeresist

Faery lands forlorn? Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft