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vandermolen

#2400
September 11, 2015, 05:23:19 AM
OMG  :o :o :o

The reaction in the RVW Journal was quite tame in comparison with you lot. I don't know what to say.

Well, I don't mind the orchestral version so much.  :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

ZauberdrachenNr.7

#2401
September 11, 2015, 05:38:18 AM
C'mon, vandermolen.  Repent!  There's still time to save your soul!! 0:) :laugh:

Karl Henning

#2402
September 11, 2015, 05:44:37 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on September 11, 2015, 05:23:19 AM
OMG  :o :o :o

The reaction in the RVW Journal was quite tame in comparison with you lot. I don't know what to say.

Well, I don't mind the orchestral version so much.  :)

I admire your fortitude, Jeffrey!  ;)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Archaic Torso of Apollo

#2403
September 11, 2015, 09:43:01 AM
I picked up Slatkin's 3+4 the other day. On first listening, I think it's really, really good - very energetic and powerful in the 4th, and nicely flowing in the Pastoral. Excellent playing by the Philharmonia too.

His cycle gets generally good reviews, so I'm not surprised. (haven't heard any of the other installments)
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

vandermolen

#2404
September 12, 2015, 12:18:46 AM
I'm keen to steer the discussion away from the 'Serenade to Music' in view of hysterical reactions above.  8)

Yes, the Slatkin series is good although symphonies 5 and 6 were a bit disappointing in the cycle. The CD with 8,9 and 'Flourish for Glorious John [Barbirolli]' is excellent. I saw him conduct Symphony 9 live in London and it was really good.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sergeant Rock

#2405
September 12, 2015, 02:34:14 AM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on September 11, 2015, 09:43:01 AM
I picked up Slatkin's 3+4 the other day. On first listening, I think it's really, really good

Yes, Slatkin's Fourth is excellent.  I also like his Sea Symphony (tremendous organ presence).

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Christo

#2406
September 12, 2015, 09:58:29 AM
Re the Serenade to Music, I agree with its own key message (from Act V, Scene 1 of The Merchant of Venice):

The man that hath no passion for this Serenade,
Nor is not deeply mov'd with its concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils;
The motions of his spirit are dull as night
And his affections dark as Erebus:
Let no such man be trusted.   >:D
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

#2407
September 12, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: Christo on September 12, 2015, 09:58:29 AM
Re the Serenade to Music, I agree with its own key message (from Act V, Scene 1 of The Merchant of Venice):

The man that hath no passion for this Serenade,
Nor is not deeply mov'd with its concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils;
The motions of his spirit are dull as night
And his affections dark as Erebus:
Let no such man be trusted.   >:D

8)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Archaic Torso of Apollo

#2408
September 13, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 12, 2015, 02:34:14 AM
  I also like his Sea Symphony (tremendous organ presence).


This is the one VW symphony that I can't fall in love with, for some reason. I've YouTubed it a few times, and it comes across as bloated and overblown. Maybe I should get an actual recording of the piece and concentrate on it.
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

vandermolen

#2409
September 13, 2015, 01:36:11 PM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on September 13, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
This is the one VW symphony that I can't fall in love with, for some reason. I've YouTubed it a few times, and it comes across as bloated and overblown. Maybe I should get an actual recording of the piece and concentrate on it.
This remained a blind spot for me for decades until I heard Bernard Haitink's recording (which is the one I recommend). Now I find it to be a deeply moving work although the best music is definitely in the finale.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sergeant Rock

#2410
September 13, 2015, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on September 13, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
This is the one VW symphony that I can't fall in love with, for some reason. I've YouTubed it a few times, and it comes across as bloated and overblown. Maybe I should get an actual recording of the piece and concentrate on it.

Sorry, I can't help you. Whenever anyone uses the adjectives bloated and overblown to describe some of my favorite music, I realize we are talking in completely different languages and there is no sense in continuing the conversation  ;)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

#2411
September 13, 2015, 02:31:53 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on September 13, 2015, 01:36:11 PM
This remained a blind spot for me for decades until I heard Bernard Haitink's recording (which is the one I recommend).

I had the good fortune (assisted by Harry) that this was, in fact, the first I heard the piece, and I was enchanted straight off.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Archaic Torso of Apollo

#2412
September 13, 2015, 02:51:44 PM
Sounds like Haitink's a good choice. Or Slatkin, if I want "tremendous organ presence" (but how important is the organ throughout?).

Reading around, Boult seems to be a highly-regarded classic performance. Am curious about Spano/Atlanta, any1 heard that one?
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Sergeant Rock

#2413
September 13, 2015, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on September 13, 2015, 02:51:44 PM
Sounds like Haitink's a good choice. Or Slatkin, if I want "tremendous organ presence" (but how important is the organ throughout?).

Reading around, Boult seems to be a highly-regarded classic performance. Am curious about Spano/Atlanta, any1 heard that one?

Haven't heard Spano...but my top three are Haitink, Boult (Decca) and Slatkin.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Archaic Torso of Apollo

#2414
September 13, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Turns out there's a brand new recording of it by Mark Elder. Anyone heard it? Behold a rave review:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/vaughan-williams-sea-symphony-review/
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

relm1

#2415
September 13, 2015, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on September 13, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Turns out there's a brand new recording of it by Mark Elder. Anyone heard it? Behold a rave review:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/vaughan-williams-sea-symphony-review/

It's hard to imagine the Haitink recording can be topped, however I'm such a fan of this work. It really speaks to me so I must check out this new recording. The reviews are consistently strong.

vandermolen

#2416
September 13, 2015, 10:34:42 PM Last Edit: September 13, 2015, 10:40:57 PM by vandermolen
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 13, 2015, 03:08:29 PM
Haven't heard Spano...but my top three are Haitink, Boult (Decca) and Slatkin.

Sarge

These are all good choices although sadly none of them are coupled with that great masterpiece 'Serenade to Music' hahaha   :P
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

cilgwyn

#2417
September 14, 2015, 03:47:16 AM
By the way,which is your favourite recording of the 'Serenade',vandermolen? ;D

Karl Henning

#2418
September 14, 2015, 03:55:08 AM
Quote from: cilgwyn on September 14, 2015, 03:47:16 AM
By the way,which is your favourite recording of the 'Serenade',vandermolen? ;D

Surgically done, sir  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#2419
September 14, 2015, 08:27:02 AM Last Edit: September 14, 2015, 08:29:58 AM by vandermolen
Quote from: cilgwyn on September 14, 2015, 03:47:16 AM
By the way,which is your favourite recording of the 'Serenade',vandermolen? ;D
This one - orchestral only version - no singing. 8)
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Or this one:
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).
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