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Started by Silk, July 22, 2013, 04:22:49 PM

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Silk


Mirror Image

#1
Yes! Very funny. Of course, I love the music of Schoenberg and Berg. I still haven't quite warmed up to Webern yet.

Szykneij

Very amusing and well done!

The pistol shots match perfectly with the Stravinsky clip.

Got a chuckle from the virtuosity of the Berg violin concerto --

G-D-A-E   E-A-D-G
Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

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kyjo

#3
Quote from: Mirror Image on July 22, 2013, 04:56:08 PM
Yes! Very funny. Of course, I love the music of Schoenberg and Berg. I'm still haven't quite warmed up to Webern yet.

Same here, John. But I do enjoy Webern's early works: the Brahmsian Passacaglia, the Straussian tone poem Im Sommerwind, and the Mahlerian Langsamer satz for string quartet (which has been arranged for string orchestra, as has Schoenberg's magnificent String Quartet no. 2). They aren't masterpieces like Schoenberg's early works are, though. I largely prefer Schoenberg's early orchestral works (Verklarte Nacht, Pelleas et Melisande, Gurreleider) to Richard Strauss' overblown symphonic poems, which are orchestral showpieces but not much else, IMO.

I see Schoenberg has kicked poor old Ralph out of the house ;)

Mirror Image

#4
Quote from: kyjo on July 22, 2013, 05:10:51 PM
Same here, John. But I do enjoy Webern's early works: the Brahmsian Passacaglia, the Straussian tone poem Im Sommerwind, and the Mahlerian Langsamer satz for string quartet (which has been arranged for string orchestra, as has Schoenberg's magnificent String Quartet no. 2). The aren't masterpieces like Schoenberg's early works are, though. I largely prefer Schoenberg's early orchestral works (Verklarte Nacht, Pelleas et Melisande, Gurreleider) to Richard Strauss' overblown symphonic poems, which are orchestral showpieces but not much else, IMO.

I see Schoenberg has kicked poor old Ralph out of the house ;)

Yes, I do enjoy those Webern works especially Passacaglia, but I haven't warmed to his 12-tone music like I have Schoenberg and Berg. I suppose I still hear traces of Romanticism even in Schoenberg's and Berg's advanced works which I just don't hear in mature Webern. It took me several years to fully appreciate 12-tone music, but now I understand the invention and amount of labor it must have went into composing such complex music and yet this music, after several years of listening to it, retains an accessibility to it that I find refreshing. Schoenberg and Berg are about as far 'out there' musically I get but I come away from their music far more enriched every time I listen to their music.

And, yes, ol' Arnie doesn't have time for Ralph's stumbling around and mocking about like a 'sack of potatoes' as Gerald Finzi's son said of the way RVW sat in a chair in the BBC documentary The Passions Of Vaughan Williams. :)

jochanaan

I especially liked the quote "The greatest composers since Joachim Raff"! ;D
Imagination + discipline = creativity

Sergeant Rock

I've known this bit since the 70s. It was originally (the soundtrack, not the video) a parody produced by Cleveland's classical station, WCLV, during Matthias Bamert's time as assistant conductor of the Cleveland Orchestra. The narrator is Robert Conrad, well-known Cleveland radio personality and founder/owner of WCLV.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Dax


jut1972

Quality!! Sums up my ill informed opinions nicely :)

But...

I've just spotted a major disagreement between MI and Kyjo!  ???

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music." - Sergei Rachmaninov

Vs.

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music."-Sergei Rachmaninoff

Uh oh!




Mirror Image

Quote from: jut1972 on August 04, 2013, 09:15:01 AM
Quality!! Sums up my ill informed opinions nicely :)

But...

I've just spotted a major disagreement between MI and Kyjo!  ???

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music." - Sergei Rachmaninov

Vs.

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music."-Sergei Rachmaninoff

Uh oh!

:P Yeah, he's my twin. ;) But even twins disagree from time to time.

jut1972


Sergeant Rock

I'm with kyjo: Rachmaninoff. That's the way the composer spelled it while in the West. That's the way it was spelled in his passport. That's the way it's spelled on his gravestone.



And most important: that's the way Wiki spells it  ;D


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Opus106

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 05, 2013, 04:27:10 AM
And most important: that's the way Wiki spells it  ;D


Sarge

I thought you were going to end that with "That's what M said." ;D
Regards,
Navneeth

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Opus106 on August 05, 2013, 05:54:12 AM
I thought you were going to end that with "That's what M said." ;D

I thought about it but then I couldn't have ended my post with a joke. I  mean, one can't laugh about the Word of God without fear of retribution  :D


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Opus106

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 05, 2013, 06:03:08 AM
I thought about it but then I couldn't have ended my post with a joke. I  mean, one can't laugh about the Word of God without fear of retribution  :D

Sarge

Yet this is probably the only Garden of Eden from which God was banned. ;D
Regards,
Navneeth

DavidW


springrite

Quote from: Opus106 on August 05, 2013, 06:07:57 AM
Yet this is probably the only Garden of Eden from which God was banned. ;D

What can I say, it's a garden run by snakes.  :P
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Geo Dude

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 05, 2013, 06:03:08 AM
I thought about it but then I couldn't have ended my post with a joke. I  mean, one can't laugh about the Word of God without fear of retribution  :D


Sarge

Fortunately, the type of retribution that deity offers is in the form of calling you a philistine.  And putting a bunch of umlauts into his post for you.

lisa needs braces

#18
I remember that video from 5 years ago when Alex Ross of the New Yorker posted it on his blog. My goodness how the time flies.