Eleven favourite 20th Century piano concertos.

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vandermolen

Quote from: kyjo on October 13, 2013, 04:41:52 AM

Thanks! The Atterberg is a life-affirming, inspiring work with melodies that will haunt you for days. I'm sure you'd enjoy it! I almost included Martinu's PC 4-a magical work-but it got pushed out on the final elimination round. The Bate and Ireland concertos are wonderful-as are the VW and Bliss PCs you listed (as well as Bax's works for piano and orchestra). My favorite British PC, though, is Foulds' Dynamic Triptych-a thrilling, everything-but-the-kitchen-sink work that ranges from Rachmaninoffian lushness to Scriabinian mysteriousness to Bartokian ferocity within the blink of an eye.

I should have included the Foulds too  ::)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

kyjo


Lisztianwagner

In no particular order:

Rachmaninov Piano Concerto No.3
Ravel Piano Concerto for the left hand
Shostakovich Piano Concerto No.2
Prokofiev Piano Concerto No.2
Martinu Piano Concerto No.4
Szymanowski Symphony No.4
Glazunov Piano Concerto No.2
Bartok Piano Concerto No.1
Tveitt Piano Concerto No.5
Bortkiewicz Piano Concerto No.1
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

kyjo

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on October 14, 2013, 01:11:03 AM
In no particular order:

Rachmaninov Piano Concerto No.3
Ravel Piano Concerto for the left hand
Shostakovich Piano Concerto No.2
Prokofiev Piano Concerto No.2
Martinu Piano Concerto No.4
Szymanowski Symphony No.4
Glazunov Piano Concerto No.2
Bartok Piano Concerto No.1
Tveitt Piano Concerto No.5
Bortkiewicz Piano Concerto No.1

Very nice list, Ilaria! Good to see some votes for Tveitt and Bortkiewicz! I could've gone with any of the Tveitt PCs, really. All are stupendous works!

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: kyjo on October 14, 2013, 02:37:46 AM
Very nice list, Ilaria! Good to see some votes for Tveitt and Bortkiewicz! I could've gone with any of the Tveitt PCs, really. All are stupendous works!

I completely agree! :)

I'm sorry I only wrote ten piano concertos before, I will include Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue too.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Sergeant Rock

Reger Piano Concerto F minor

Bach/Busoni Piano Concerto D  minor after BWV 1052

Lloyd Piano Concerto #4

Poulenc Piano Concerto

Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto #2 C minor

Prokofiev Piano Concerto #2 G minor

Marx Romantisches Klavierkonzert (Romantic Piano Concerto)

Korngold Piano Concerto C sharp for the left hand

Ravel Piano Concerto G major

Schoenberg Piano Concerto

Englund Piano Concerto #1
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: kyjo on October 12, 2013, 03:06:32 PM
Prokofiev no. 2 (love the "scary" first movement)

And after listening to the second movement we know where Jerry Goldsmith stole his Klingon theme (Star Trek: The Motion Picture)  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

kyjo

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 14, 2013, 03:33:38 AM
Reger Piano Concerto F minor

Bach/Busoni Piano Concerto D  minor after BWV 1052

Lloyd Piano Concerto #4

Poulenc Piano Concerto

Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto #2 C minor

Prokofiev Piano Concerto #2 G minor

Marx Romantisches Klavierkonzert (Romantic Piano Concerto)

Korngold Piano Concerto C sharp for the left hand

Ravel Piano Concerto G major

Schoenberg Piano Concerto

Englund Piano Concerto #1

Interesting choices. The Reger is certainly a grand work that reveals more on each successive listen. The Lloyd no. 4 had some good moments (like the catchy little tune of the finale which I'm sure he cribbed from something), but overall it didn't impress me much. His first three PCs (especially the epic no. 3) I was more impressed with. Good to see another vote for the Marx-like the Foulds Dynamic Tripytch, it's one of those everything-but-the-kitchen-sink kind of works which is nothing if not a great wallow. The Englund is a very fine work IIRC-reminds me of what a more "serious" PC by Shostakovich would have sounded like. I forgot about the Poulenc (which I actually prefer to the Double PC, oddly), with its rather Rach-ish first two movements and delightful, echt-Poulencian romp of a finale.

Cato

I am surprised that Bartok's efforts do not appear more often!

So..

Bartok All 3 concertos

Busoni's

Gershwin's

Rachmaninov's Third and Fourth

Tcherepnin's All 6, but especially #2 and #5

13, not 11   :o  Some people just cannot follow the rules!

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kyjo

Quote from: Cato on October 16, 2013, 03:53:24 AM
I am surprised that Bartok's efforts do not appear more often!

So..

Bartok All 3 concertos

Busoni's

Gershwin's

Rachmaninov's Third and Fourth

Tcherepnin's All 6, but especially #2 and #5

13, not 11   :o  Some people just cannot follow the rules!

Nice choices! Bartok 3 came very close to making it on my list, and it's certainly one of the great 20th century PCs (along with his other two). Busoni's is also great in its sheer epicness. I've enjoyed Tcherepnin's (a composer who doesn't get discussed much around here) colorful PCs a lot-good to see them mentioned!

North Star

Quote from: kyjo on October 16, 2013, 11:34:50 AM
Nice choices! Bartok 3 came very close to making it on my list, and it's certainly one of the great 20th century PCs (along with his other two). Busoni's is also great in its sheer epicness. I've enjoyed Tcherepnin's (a composer who doesn't get discussed much around here) colorful PCs a lot-good to see them mentioned!
Is he more popular elsewhere? The PCs are good music, certainly.
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

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kyjo

Quote from: North Star on October 16, 2013, 11:57:32 AM
Is he more popular elsewhere? The PCs are good music, certainly.

No, not really! ;D I guess it's just because I've never brought him up since joining this forum until now.

North Star

Quote from: kyjo on October 16, 2013, 11:58:58 AM
No, not really! ;D I guess it's just because I've never brought him up since joining this forum until now.
Oh dear...
You should read the Tcherepnin thread!
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

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vandermolen

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 14, 2013, 03:33:38 AM
Reger Piano Concerto F minor

Bach/Busoni Piano Concerto D  minor after BWV 1052

Lloyd Piano Concerto #4

Poulenc Piano Concerto

Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto #2 C minor
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Prokofiev Piano Concerto #2 G minor

Marx Romantisches Klavierkonzert (Romantic Piano Concerto)

Korngold Piano Concerto C sharp for the left hand

Ravel Piano Concerto G major

Schoenberg Piano Concerto

Englund Piano Concerto #1


Nice choices. Lloyd's epic PC No 3 is a work I like very much.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 14, 2013, 03:33:38 AM
Lloyd Piano Concerto #4

Quote from: kyjo on October 14, 2013, 11:41:44 AMHis first three PCs (especially the epic no. 3) I was more impressed with.

Quote from: vandermolen on October 17, 2013, 10:16:51 AM

Nice choices. Lloyd's epic PC No 3 is a work I like very much.

I might prefer the Third too if I knew it. But I don't. I only own the Fourth. I foresee a trip to Amazon in my near future  ;)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

I'd like to see Wuorinen muscle his way onto Sarge's list, but it's a fine list, and the competition is fierce . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

I also like the one by Lou Harrison and am currently discovering the two by Lukas Foss.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

kyjo

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on November 20, 2013, 05:53:30 AM
I might prefer the Third too if I knew it. But I don't. I only own the Fourth. I foresee a trip to Amazon in my near future  ;)

Sarge

I guarantee you'll prefer the Third to the Fourth. If not, then I'll eat my hat! :D

kyjo

Quote from: vandermolen on November 20, 2013, 11:55:06 AM
I also like the one by Lou Harrison and am currently discovering the two by Lukas Foss.

I remember liking the two by Foss a lot. I don't know much by Harrison, except his Elegiac Symphony (no. 2, I believe), which is very beautiful. If his PC is in a similar style, I'd be most interested!

Two other favorites of mine are Bloch's Concerto Symphonique and Rodrigo's Concierto heroico.

Mirror Image

Quote from: kyjo on November 20, 2013, 12:17:54 PMTwo other favorites of mine are Bloch's Concerto Symphonique and Rodrigo's Concierto heroico.

Agreed! That slow movement to Rodrigo's Concierto heroico is deeply moving, but he always wrote such gorgeous slow movements.