Beethoven's Piano Sonatas

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Brian

Quote from: Holden on June 14, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
Jando also does the electoral sonatas.

I feel like the incomplete Gilels does too.

jlaurson

Quote from: Brian on June 14, 2012, 01:24:31 PM
I feel like the incomplete Gilels does too.

You feel correctly. And the Eroica Variations, too. (The Variations are so excellent... totally underrated. I would drop a few sonatas for them, if I had to trade.)


FYI: Beethoven Sonata Survey Somewhat updated and re-ordered.

prémont

Quote from: Brian on June 14, 2012, 01:24:31 PM
I feel like the incomplete Gilels does too.

Only two of the three.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: George on June 13, 2012, 06:18:20 AM
Correct, karl.

I am not sure if it was remastered, but I haven't heard any bad things about the sound on that one. (and the price on that third party seller is excellent, less than $37? I paid $49 for mine and it didn't have the concertos) The Brilliant issue seems to have gone OOP.

Thanks for your help, George! I've gone ahead and pulled the ol' trigger . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

George

Quote from: karlhenning on June 15, 2012, 04:56:41 AM
Thanks for your help, George! I've gone ahead and pulled the ol' trigger . . . .

Awesome!  :)

And good morning!
"I can't live without music, because music is life." - Yvonne Lefébure

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

George

Quote from: karlhenning on June 15, 2012, 05:03:19 AM
Happy Friday, my friend!

Indeed it is! And same to you. Hope you got that nice, dry, 75 degree weather we have over here.
"I can't live without music, because music is life." - Yvonne Lefébure

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 13, 2012, 06:25:02 AM
Re-checking the sound now. Spot checked several discs. Sounds fine. Buy with confidence, Karl.

And warm thanks to you, Sarge, and to Dave & Todd as well.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: George on June 15, 2012, 05:05:16 AM
Indeed it is! And same to you. Hope you got that nice, dry, 75 degree weather we have over here.

Oh, but this is an exquisite morning! I cycled from the train station to the office . . . first time I've been on a bicycle in, oh, it has got to have been two decades.  I've been on a horse more recently than I had been on a bicycle!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

George

Quote from: karlhenning on June 15, 2012, 05:08:32 AM
Oh, but this is an exquisite morning! I cycled from the train station to the office . . . first time I've been on a bicycle in, oh, it has got to have been two decades.  I've been on a horse more recently than I had been on a bicycle!

Sounds wonderful! These are the days to treasure, the hot and sticky days will be upon us soon.
"I can't live without music, because music is life." - Yvonne Lefébure

Todd




The Frenchest Beethoven yet.  All throughout Jean Efflam Bavouzet's first volume, one hears as perfect an example of the French School of pianism as I can recall hearing.  Elegant doesn't adequately describe Bavouzet's approach.  It is also swift, light, clean as a whistle, and just downright pretty.  This is meant as high praise, I hasten to add; I'm rather fond of French pianism and pianists.  Also, Mr Bavouzet's discs arrived at the right time, offering a much needed alternative to HJ Lim's crude banging and flailing.  Crude is a word one could not apply to this set.

The threefer is a straight shot through the first ten sonatas.  No fussy programming here.  The first disc, devoted to the Op 2 sonatas, is good, clean, light fun.  Here the Frenchness stands out.  The playing is light in texture, with nary a notable loud note to be heard until the slow movement of 2/3, where the tolling left hand notes ring out most satisfyingly.  Bavouzet's clarity is tip-top shelf, and the clarity of the left hand playing is as obvious as David Allen Wehr's, but it's more refined and blends even better.  Sure, Bavouzet's elegant approach means that the ending movement of 2/1 lacks the fire of other readings, and youthful prankishness can be hard to find, or at least it's more understated than is often the case, but everything is so lovely, it's impossible to complain. 

The second disc opens with a comparatively breezy Op 7, moves on to a light, lithe Op 13, and ends with delightful Op 14 sonatas.  The only misgivings here would have to be with the Pathetique, which is not an especially intense reading.  Rather, it's a marvel of the classical style, delivered most elegantly.  I tend to prefer more romantic readings, or at least more intense ones, but make no mistake, this is superbly well done. 

The final disc covers the Op 10 sonatas, and everything is there to enjoy.  Perfectly controlled, swift ascending arpeggios in the opener of 10/1, and an energetic, meticulously played closer?  Check.  Delightful 10/2, with repeat in the final movement?  Check.  High energy 10/3, with hints of drama in the slow movement?  Check.  Bavouzet throws in not one but two extra tidbits from 10/1 – WoO 52 and a reconstructed original version of the Prestissimo.  Both are superbly played.

So, this is a most enjoyable first installment to yet another new Elveebee sonata cycle.  I was most eager to here this set so as to compare it to Francois Frederic Guy's masterful first volume of his cycle.  Guy's style is more my thing, but Bavouzet's opener makes me want to hear the rest of the cycle just as soon as possible. 

SOTA sound.
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Kontrapunctus

#1471
I'm very happy with Michael Korstick's series on the Oehms label. His latest volume, which contains the Op. 106 "Hammerklavier," will raise a few eyebrows due to the rather fast outer movements (he actually follows the printed MM tempos) and the glacial tempo of the sublime Adagio, which clocks in at 28:42! Some may find his playing a bit aggressive, but he can play poetically, too. Oehms' SACD audio is superb.


Sergeant Rock

#1472
Quote from: Toccata&Fugue on June 16, 2012, 09:05:24 AM
I'm very happy with Michael Korstick's series on the Oehms label. His latest volume, which contains the Op. 106 "Hammerklavier," will raise a few eyebrows due to the rather fast outer movements (he actually follows the printed MM tempos) and the glacial tempo of the sublime Adagio, which clocks in at 28:42!

Listened to clips at Amazon. You can leave the room and go brew a pot of tea between some of the chords in that Adagio ;D  He's faster than Lim in the first movement but he sounds cleaner. I may have to get this.

By the way, his the next volume (vol.11) has been released, at least in Germany. Contains 109, 110, 111.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Brian

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 16, 2012, 09:18:50 AM
Listened to clips at Amazon. You can listen to HJ Lim's complete Op 27 between some of the chords in that Adagio ;D

fixed ;)

Sergeant Rock

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Todd

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 16, 2012, 09:18:50 AMBy the way, his the next volume (vol.11) has been released, at least in Germany. Contains 109, 110, 111.



Excellent, maybe Oehms will box up the set soon.  I've got two volumes, and based on those I'm not interested in the expense of buying all of them one at a time.  A discounted box, on the other hand . . .
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Brian

Subjecting myself to her Opp 27/2 and 79, I can't help thinking: god, HJ Lim must be terrible in bed.

Kontrapunctus

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 16, 2012, 09:18:50 AM
Listened to clips at Amazon. You can leave the room and go brew a pot of tea between some of the chords in that Adagio ;D  He's faster than Lim in the first movement but he sounds cleaner. I may have to get this.

By the way, his the next volume (vol.11) has been released, at least in Germany. Contains 109, 110, 111.

Sarge

He makes it work...there's almost a suspended sense of time when listening to it. Good news about Vol.11--can hardly wait! (I'm in the US.)

DavidRoss

Quote from: Brian on June 17, 2012, 02:34:17 PM
Subjecting myself to her Opp 27/2 and 79, I can't help thinking: god, HJ Lim must be terrible in bed.
:o 

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Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: Brian on June 17, 2012, 02:34:17 PM
Subjecting myself to her Opp 27/2 and 79, I can't help thinking: god, HJ Lim must be terrible in bed.

......while in an alternate universe the Lim posse is doing a victory dance over your grave....



Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach