hate keeps a man alive

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Ken B

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 20, 2014, 07:40:29 PM
I liked a lot of 80s rock music. Of course, when I speak of 80s glam rock, I'm talking about bands like Poison, Quiet Riot, W.A.S.P., Twisted Sister, etc. Horrible bands.
I am glad I don't know them then!

Speaking of the 80s. My coworkers bf wanted to go tp a bar Depeche Mode night. I said I had DM cd at my desk. That was enough to tell her she'd hate them. She's a metal head. I am not!

The Six

Black Eyed Peas may be the worst band going right now.

XB-70 Valkyrie

#22
Anything sung karaoke by fat, balding, middle-aged, Harley-riding, restored-American-muscle-car driving d-bags:

- "Wastin' away again in Margaritaville..."

- "You've lost that lovin' feelin'!"

- "Just take those old records off the shaaaeeellllf!"

- Anything from the 80s (pop music only)

If you really dislike Bach you keep quiet about it! - Andras Schiff

Sergeant Rock

#23
Quote from: snyprrr on April 20, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
Johnny B. Goode

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on April 20, 2014, 10:05:28 PM
- "You've lost that lovin' feelin'!"

While I realize both songs have been overexposed, played to death everywhere and therefore, I suppose, legitimate subjects of hatred for some people, we must acknowledge that they are two of the best songs ever written and their creators, Chuck Berry and Phil Spector, two of the most influential composers in Rock and Pop history. In Dave Marsh's book The Heart of Rock and Soul: The 1001 Greatest Singles Ever Made "Johnny" comes in number 2 and the Righteous Brothers' "Lovin' Feelin'" number 5, Top 10 spots they deserve.

Thread duty: Every song on Thriller fills me with unimaginable loathing.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

The new erato

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 21, 2014, 02:31:24 AM
While I realize both songs have been overexposed, played to death everywhere and therefore, I suppose, legitimate subjects of hatred for some people, we must acknowledge that they are two of the best songs ever written and their creators, Chuck Berry and Phil Spector, two of the most influential composers in Rock and Pop history. In Dave Marsh's book The Heart of Rock and Soul: The 1001 Greatest Singles Ever Made "Johnny" comes in number 2 and the Righteous Brothers' "Lovin' Feelin'" number 5, Top 10 spots they deserve.

Thread duty: Every song on Thriller fills me with unimaginable loathing.

Sarge
Sooooooooo totally agree in everything. Bring on the bazooka.

Karl Henning

Whatever that Adele song is which became a media monster.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on April 21, 2014, 03:42:21 AM
Whatever that Adele song is which became a media monster.

We could've had it aaaaaalll! (Just in case you forgot the melody!)




Well, there's always the SAFETY DANCE!!

S-s-s-s-s A-a-a-a-a F-a-a-a-a T-t-t-t...


COME.... ON.... Eil....

Sef

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 20, 2014, 07:19:58 PM
19870s glam rock!!!! Awful noise. Hate this crap with a passion.
C'mon feel the noize!
"Do you think that I could have composed what I have composed, do you think that one can write a single note with life in it if one sits there and pities oneself?"

Karl Henning

Quote from: snyprrr on April 21, 2014, 06:15:22 AM
We could've had it aaaaaalll! (Just in case you forgot the melody!)

But for me, it isn't over . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: snyprrr on April 21, 2014, 06:15:22 AM
COME.... ON.... Eil....

I could never hate that song. It was part of the soundtrack of my life in late 1982 through the fall of '83, one of the best years of my life.

You in that dress,
my thoughts I confess
Well, they're dirty


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

bwv 1080

This is worse if, like me, you love a fair amount of country music

https://www.youtube.com/v/WySgNm8qH-I

The Six

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on April 20, 2014, 10:05:28 PM
- Anything from the 80s (pop music only)

If you can't appreciate some '80s pop music, you're probably a bad person.  :(

Cato

Quote from: James on April 21, 2014, 07:35:56 AM
I'd say, I seriously detest a good 95% of what is out there floating around, past or present. Sad but true. Most of which, all sounds the same.

What I've grown to hate even more than this song or that .. is the almost (at this point) hopelessness of it all (i.e. turning more people around); how most folks out there have no apparent clue whatsoever about this beautiful Art Form and what it really is and could-be, nor the benefits of exploring it and its challenges on a deeper level. I realize people are busy, but damn they often opt for the lowest common denominator. Most folks just aren't intellectually curious at all I find, especially true with music. They don't even make an effort on any level, they just mindlessly (& greedily) consume what they are fed. And to top it off, when you even mention  "classical music" .. they instantly think "old" .. "boring" .. "dull" and it all sounds like Mozart basically. Ugh.

Just curious .. those of you who don't work "jobs in the arts" which i assume has been the case for most of us .. how did conversations regarding music pan out with say co-workers if the topic came up .. you even bother ? I'm thinking it may go smoother for some of our European friends as it is more deeply ingrained in the culture .. ? But just try to enter one whilst listening to them rave on about KISS, Kelly Clarkson or some of the awful current "country", "rap" etc.. bullshit.


We have discussed this problem in various ways elsewhere under assorted topics: at this moment I usually quote Schoenberg:

If it is Art, it is not for everyone, and if it is for everyone, it is not Art.

I know this annoys our democratic sensibilities - it annoys mine! - but it seems to be true.  CAN "average persons" appreciate Art Music?  Yes.   WILL they?   No.   The best we can do is to suggest, show our enthusiasm, encourage again, and then stand back. 
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

kishnevi

Quote from: Cato on April 21, 2014, 05:03:22 PM
We have discussed this problem in various ways elsewhere under assorted topics: at this moment I usually quote Schoenberg:

If it is Art, it is not for everyone, and if it is for everyone, it is not Art.

I know this annoys our democratic sensibilities - it annoys mine! - but it seems to be true.  CAN "average persons" appreciate Art Music?  Yes.   WILL they?   No.   The best we can do is to suggest, show our enthusiasm, encourage again, and then stand back.
One also needs to recognize that what is art for one person is trash for another person

kishnevi

Quote from: The Six on April 21, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
If you can't appreciate some '80s pop music, you're probably a bad person.  :(
exactly.a lot of the songs that have been named in this thread I find to be perfectly bland and inoffensive and some of them I even like! But I don't think of them in the same way that I think of Mozart or Mahler.  they entertain or pass the time of day. I don't expect any great revelations from them like I do from classical music.

kishnevi

Quote from: bwv 1080 on April 21, 2014, 07:39:15 AM
This is worse if, like me, you love a fair amount of country music

https://www.youtube.com/v/WySgNm8qH-I
LOL!  Actually this illustrates whatI just said above.  No great illumination of spirit but perfectly enjoyable tunes.  And I doubt they are meant as anything else.

R

Ken B

Quote from: The Six on April 21, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
If you can't appreciate some '80s pop music, you're probably a bad person.  :(
Oh, in my case there's no "probably" about it.

Ken B

Quote from: James on April 21, 2014, 05:44:02 PM
Never works. After so many failed attempts .. I just pull a Zen move and remain silent.
I had some successes, but mostly from when I was in radio. Recently I have had a lot of success with minimalists, especially Nyman. Not much else though. But people start with Nyman and branch out. I'm not Zen like yet.

bwv 1080

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on April 21, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
LOL!  Actually this illustrates whatI just said above.  No great illumination of spirit but perfectly enjoyable tunes.  And I doubt they are meant as anything else.

R
Not looking for illumination of spirit, just stuff that does not suck. 

kishnevi

Quote from: bwv 1080 on April 21, 2014, 05:47:10 PM
Not looking for illumination of spirit, just stuff that does not suck.
It is true that with country, rock and pop my standards are pretty low.  It is only at rap that I draw the line.