Jazz piano poll

Started by Brian, April 29, 2014, 08:09:38 PM

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You may choose TWO.

Art Tatum
9 (23.1%)
Duke Ellington
4 (10.3%)
Oscar Peterson
3 (7.7%)
Erroll Garner
2 (5.1%)
Bill Evans
10 (25.6%)
Dave Brubeck
3 (7.7%)
Herbie Hancock
3 (7.7%)
Keith Jarrett
3 (7.7%)
Thelonious Monk
16 (41%)
Someone else!
6 (15.4%)

Total Members Voted: 39

escher

Quote from: king ubu on June 12, 2015, 05:21:22 AM
Not really familiar with Raducanu, but Ianci Körössy need be added to my list - hell of an amazing player!

Other Europeansof interest:

René Urtreger
Giorgio Gaslini
Bernard Peiffer

Never heard of Urtreger before and Raducanu.
Just because you've mentioned the french Tatum (Peiffer) I'd like to mention also Umberto Cesàri, the italian Tatum, not known as D'andrea, Pieranunzi, Bollani and guys like that but considered by many the greatest italian pianist ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQ8NQZJlFU

Florestan

Quote from: king ubu on June 12, 2015, 05:21:22 AM
Not really familiar with Raducanu, but Ianci Körössy need be added to my list - hell of an amazing player!

Oh yes, Jancsi too!  8)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_K%C5%91r%C3%B6ssy

You should explore Răducanu in depth, he was in a league of his own. A most excellent pianist (who actually started as a double-bass player), a very funny and gentle person and an exceptional causeur (his TV-recorded interviews are legendary in Romania). If you can find any of his recordings do not hesitate to buy.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

Ah, an instigator, eh?  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: karlhenning on June 12, 2015, 08:18:34 AM
Ah, an instigator, eh?  8)

If I did not instigate people to explore Romanian culture, who would?  :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on June 12, 2015, 08:29:35 AM
If I did not instigate people to explore Romanian culture, who would?  :D

Oh, I did not mean you, dear fellow!  I was [re-] interpreting causeur as instigator  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: karlhenning on June 12, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
Oh, I did not mean you, dear fellow!  I was [re-] interpreting causeur as instigator  8)

I was actually wondering whom you referred to --- and I took my chance.  :)

Johnny was really one of a kind. He was a true gentleman, he had a marvelous sense of humour and a huge musical culture (his favorite composer was Schubert, and of the latter´s work his favorite genre was Lieder). If you understood Romanian you´d enjoy his interviews big time, I can bet on it.  :)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

king ubu

@Florestan: Thanks, will indeed try and check out Raducanu some day!

As for Ianci/Iancsi/Yancy/Yancsy/etc., he's of Hungarian descent, I assume? Not that it matters, of course, but his family name looks decidedly Hungarian to me!

@escher: You might have heard Urtreger backing Miles on the soundtrack of Louis Malle's classic "L'ascenseur pour l'echafaud" - hist first album from around that time was a Bud Powell hommage, and the young french dude pulls it off with class! A few years later, he was part of HUM (Humair-Urtreger-Michelot) which recorded some albums (a 3CD set on Sketch collected the one from around 1960 and a 70s one, adding a new recording on the final disc - highly recommended, just called "HUM" and likely quite OOP, alas). Urtreger is still around, some of his stuff has been reissued on his sister's label Carlyne, he also has a few recent recordings out (a trio one from last year, and a slightly older one with singer Isabelle Georges, she who recorded with Sirba on naïve).

The Italian Tatum, alas, I don't know (yet) - but I love me some Italian jazz. In the piano department, Giorgio Gaslini is pretty excellent, though if I think of his recordings, I think more of ensembles and compositions than of piano, hence he didn't make my list, initially.

Pieranunzi is hit and miss for me, sometimes he's a tad too pleasant to my ears - but yes, the trio with Johnson and Baron is outstanding indeed - reminds me I have some stuff by them to add to my shopping list!


Finally, just in case anyone wonders why Bill Evans doesn't make my list - not easy to put in words, but I just don't really connect with him that much. Love his earliest work, when he was a hard-swinging piano player (up to 1958 or so), and yes, of course I adore the trio recordings with Scott LaFaro and a very young Paul Motian (he got so much better later!) and many other recordings he made - I own most of his music in form of various box sets, but still, he's not as close to my heart as the ones on the list.
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Fick mich, lieber Peter!
Und do die roten röslein stan:
Fick mich, lieber Peter!
Fick mich mehr, du hast dein ehr.
Kannstu nit, ich wills dich lern.
Fick mich, lieber Peter!

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Florestan

Quote from: king ubu on June 12, 2015, 09:44:21 AM
@Florestan: Thanks, will indeed try and check out Raducanu some day!

As for Ianci/Iancsi/Yancy/Yancsy/etc., he's of Hungarian descent, I assume? Not that it matters, of course, but his family name looks decidedly Hungarian to me!

Yes, that is correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_K%C5%91r%C3%B6ssy
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Henk

'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

escher

there are still great or amazing players not yet mentioned, like:

Ran Blake
Chris Anderson
Jimmy Rowles
Albert Dailey
Stan Tracey
Marian McPartland
Roland Hanna
Kenny Barron
Clare Fischer

San Antone

Some classical pianists who also played and recorded jazz

Friedrich Gulda



György Cziffra

https://www.youtube.com/v/FdftsCJuldE

And of course Andre Previn

https://www.youtube.com/v/3XRwYUUAMsQ

king ubu

Quote from: escher on June 15, 2015, 09:57:32 AM
there are still great or amazing players not yet mentioned, like:

Ran Blake
Chris Anderson
Jimmy Rowles
Albert Dailey
Stan Tracey
Marian McPartland
Roland Hanna
Kenny Barron
Clare Fischer

Ran Blake - dang! Definitely belongs onto my list. Several of the others (Rowles, Anderson, Dailey, Hanna) I enjoy a lot as well. Barron is more hot and cold, somehow ... and brings to mind Mulgrew Miller, with whom he played some great duos (not sure they recorded officially, don't think so). McPartland, of course: her "Piano Jazz" show was great! Admire how she could play with virtually anyone without having to deny her own personality.

Clare Fischer is a fairly recent discovery for me, though he definitely recorded some fine things, but I tend to think of him more of as leader/composer/arranger. My fault, I guess.

Brings to mind another forgotten giant: Johnny Guarnieri - he who could've been the one true heir to Tatum (okay, Solal is a contender of course!), had he attempted to go for a proper "career".
Es wollt ein meydlein grasen gan:
Fick mich, lieber Peter!
Und do die roten röslein stan:
Fick mich, lieber Peter!
Fick mich mehr, du hast dein ehr.
Kannstu nit, ich wills dich lern.
Fick mich, lieber Peter!

http://ubus-notizen.blogspot.ch/

Leo K.

Quote from: karlhenning on June 12, 2015, 05:39:26 AM
He would not displace either of my two choices, but it was Marcus Roberts who got me to re-attune my ears to the Rhapsody in Blue

http://www.youtube.com/v/Xrs135MAvJc

Amazing recording. I saw him in a trio setting back in the late 90's. Great artist!

Leo K.

Monk and (someone else) Bud Powell.  ;D

Henk

Quote from: North Star on June 11, 2015, 11:52:07 PM
And you can always start your own poll/topic about younger pianists, Henk.

You are right. It was not a sensible comment. Sorry, Brian.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

jochanaan

Before his recent passing, I had the privilege of hearing and (on a couple of memorable occasions for me) jamming with Joe Bonner.  Maybe I'm prejudiced because of my personal association with him, but I believe he belongs on a list of great jazz pianists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm0wHbwPu0A
Imagination + discipline = creativity

Trazom H Cab

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on April 29, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Had to give my vote to the largely forgotten Errol Garner, even though that era of jazz is not my favorite (prefer be-bop and avant-garde free jazz). His technique was phenomenal, and he had a wonderful sense of rhythm and lyricism although he never learned to read music. Arguably Art Tatum had an even more formidable technique than Garner (and likely every other human who ever lived), but ultimately I do not find his music as compelling.

You also forgot:

Cecil Taylor and Horace Tapscott

Garner definitely.  And I love Cecil Taylor, Horace Silver, McCoy Tyner, Bill Evans and Bud Powell.  Mary Lou Williams is certainly worth a mention.

Dancing Divertimentian

A lonely voice for  Ahmad Jamal.



Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Trazom H Cab


Bogey

Evans and Hancock. Brubeck almost made the cut.
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