The most perfect single movement in music

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North Star

#40
May 21, 2014, 08:09:53 AM
Among the first things I thought of when I saw the thread title:
Schubert - String Quartet in G major, D. 887 - first movement
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Ken B

#41
May 21, 2014, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: Florestan on May 21, 2014, 06:25:27 AM
Schubert rocks! Schubert's the man! Schubert rules! Schubert, Schubert ueber alles! 8)
Right Florestan today I see.  >:D

Brahmsian

#42
May 21, 2014, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: North Star on May 21, 2014, 08:09:53 AM
Among the first things I thought of when I saw the thread title:
Schubert - String Quartet in G major, D. 887 - first movement

+1  :)

Florestan

#43
May 21, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: Ken B on May 21, 2014, 10:10:52 AM
Right Florestan today I see.  >:D

Look around: whether left, center or right, Schubert rules!  >:D
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ist die Sache, hahaha,
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Jay F

#44
May 21, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: NJ Joe on May 20, 2014, 04:16:09 PM
My current favorite perfect single movement is the first movement of Brahms Symphony No. 1.  My God, it bowls me over!

After reading this, I put Symphony No. 1 on and listened to it three times. The whole symphony. While I enjoy the first movement of No. 1, what was a huge revelation to me was how perfect I find the first movement of No. 4 (I'm listening at my computer, which eventually hit No. 4). It has always been my favorite movement in Brahms. It is my perfect Brahms (whom I have struggled to like since 1987). How I wish everything he wrote were this exciting, this tuneful.

Thank you, NJ Joe.

Jaakko Keskinen

#45
May 22, 2014, 01:33:43 AM
Quote from: North Star on May 21, 2014, 08:09:53 AM
Among the first things I thought of when I saw the thread title:
Schubert - String Quartet in G major, D. 887 - first movement

No no no: if there is one Schubert moment over others it's the first movement of der Tod und das Mädchen quartet!
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

North Star

#46
May 22, 2014, 01:43:10 AM
Quote from: Alberich on May 22, 2014, 01:33:43 AM
No no no: if there is one Schubert moment over others it's the first movement of der Tod und das Mädchen quartet!
Poppycock!  8)
(it's certainly a fine movement, too, though)
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amw

#47
May 22, 2014, 01:59:54 AM
Hmm, I think I accidentally deleted my own post, somehow. That was weird.

Anyway, Schubert D. 887—best recording—Hagen Quartet on DG, currently only available as a CD-R from Arkiv. (The ASIN for picture got deleted from my clipboard, cba to find again) Hopefully Newton Classics will get their hands on it eventually since I doubt DG themselves will reissue. Listen to it if you can find it, you will not regret.

North Star

#48
May 22, 2014, 02:24:42 AM
Quote from: amw on May 22, 2014, 01:59:54 AM
Hmm, I think I accidentally deleted my own post, somehow. That was weird.

Anyway, Schubert D. 887—best recording—Hagen Quartet on DG, currently only available as a CD-R from Arkiv. (The ASIN for picture got deleted from my clipboard, cba to find again) Hopefully Newton Classics will get their hands on it eventually since I doubt DG themselves will reissue. Listen to it if you can find it, you will not regret.
I saw that before you deleted it, and will keep the recommendation in mind for later. :)
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Lisztianwagner

#49
May 22, 2014, 02:55:26 AM
Since Der Ring des Nibelungen is often compared to a giant symphony, any of the operas comprised in the Tetralogy; I'll choose the Scherzo, Siegfried. :D
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EigenUser

#50
May 22, 2014, 05:01:08 AM
I've always loved the slow second movement of Cage's 4'33''. Best thing he ever wrote, by far.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

(It was only a matter of time before someone mentioned 4'33'' here)
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Jay F

#51
May 22, 2014, 05:37:29 AM
Schubert's chamber music features three perfect second movements: Death and the Maiden, Piano Trio D929, and Quintet D956. The Piano Trio is one of the few pieces I bought before I was "into" classical (yes, I heard it in Barry Lyndon).

Jaakko Keskinen

#52
May 22, 2014, 05:56:04 AM
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on May 22, 2014, 02:55:26 AM
Since Der Ring des Nibelungen is often compared to a giant symphony, any of the operas comprised in the Tetralogy; I'll choose the Scherzo, Siegfried. :D

Ah, how didn't I think of that? I could have said the entire opera instead of one act... well, from acts in siegried act 2 is still my favorite so my point still stands.
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

Brahmsian

#53
May 22, 2014, 05:58:22 AM
Quote from: Alberich on May 22, 2014, 05:56:04 AM
Ah, how didn't I think of that? I could have said the entire opera instead of one act... well, from acts in siegried act 2 is still my favorite so my point still stands.

It is mine also!  (favourite Act of The Ring)

Karl Henning

#54
May 22, 2014, 05:59:21 AM
Well, but nothing with a Wagner libretto could be a perfect movement 8)
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Jaakko Keskinen

#55
May 22, 2014, 06:31:24 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 22, 2014, 05:59:21 AM
Well, but nothing with a Wagner libretto could be a perfect movement 8)

Read libretto of die liebe der danae and you'll think that Wagner is shakespeare.
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

Florestan

#56
May 22, 2014, 06:36:48 AM
Quote from: Alberich on May 22, 2014, 06:31:24 AM
Read libretto of die liebe der danae and you'll think that Wagner is shakespeare.

No no no! Francis Bacon is Shakespeare!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

Jaakko Keskinen

#57
May 22, 2014, 06:41:55 AM
"Gegrüsst sei, Jupiter! Nicht Jupiter - Midas! Midas-Jupiter!"

Seriously, for an opera that is musically one of my favorites from Strauss, this libretto sure does make my ears bleed.
"Javert, though frightful, had nothing ignoble about him. Probity, sincerity, candor, conviction, the sense of duty, are things which may become hideous when wrongly directed; but which, even when hideous, remain grand."

- Victor Hugo

Ken B

#58
May 22, 2014, 10:34:58 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 22, 2014, 05:59:21 AM
Well, but nothing with a Wagner libretto could be a perfect movement 8)
Something about this comment made me realize: much of Stockhausen consists of perfect movements.

>:D :o 8)

Dancing Divertimentian

#59
May 22, 2014, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: North Star on May 22, 2014, 01:43:10 AM
Poppycock!  8)

The central "movement" from the Wanderer Fantasy is another Schubert contender.



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