Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[amw]

It's not just the President, it's the Supreme Court (the appointed Justices will be likely to serve and have considerable influence for decades), the President, the Vice President, and the Republican controlled Senate and House.

Again, we had that in 2000 (or possibly Democrats controlled the Senate, but I know it did flip in 2002). Bush appointed 2 Supreme Court justices, including a new Chief Justice.

But that victory didn't give courage and legitimacy to these people:






etc.

(And to be fair, though we did get protests from the Gore supporters, I don't recall them actually setting any dumpsters on fire.)

[(poco) Sforzando]

Again, we had that in 2000 (or possibly Democrats controlled the Senate, but I know it did flip in 2002). Bush appointed 2 Supreme Court justices, including a new Chief Justice.

But that victory didn't give courage and legitimacy to these people:

(And to be fair, though we did get protests from the Gore supporters, I don't recall them actually setting any dumpsters on fire.)

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But these are the people we're not supposed to feel contempt for. These are the real Americans - not the black ones, or the gay ones, or the Muslim ones, or the Latinos, or the Jews. Let's bring the country together and drive all those undesirables out; then peace will reign throughout the land and America can be white again.

[zamyrabyrd]

Look at the two of you, protesting on the one hand that your being implacable Tuperos doesn't make you the same as the KKK, but gleefully asserting that all the Democratic constituency are indistinguishably alike.
Everyone here has eyes to read.

So why don't Obama and Hillary call off the dogs?
One of the K's, by the way, is Katholic.
The other is Kike.
So we couldn't join the KKK even if we wanted to.

[71 dB]

https://www.youtube.com/v/FiMPZais8nE

[(poco) Sforzando]

So why don't Obama and Hillary call off the dogs?

More important, where is the response from the Twitter King? No, here is what he has to say:
"Such a beautiful and important evening! The forgotten man and woman will never be forgotten again. We will all come together as never before"

So warm and fuzzy. No wonder so many are feeling terrorized.

[zamyrabyrd]

Again, we had that in 2000 (or possibly Democrats controlled the Senate, but I know it did flip in 2002). Bush appointed 2 Supreme Court justices, including a new Chief Justice.
But that victory didn't give courage and legitimacy to these people. (And to be fair, though we did get protests from the Gore supporters, I don't recall them actually setting any dumpsters on fire.)

Project Veritas uncovered bird-dogging at Trump rallies a few weeks ago. In the meantime plenty of Trump supporters had their hats knocked off, shirts ripped, of course, insulted, spat at and even beaten on the way to rallies so much they needed hospitalization. Now we have "spontaneous demonstrations".
I never read "Rules for Radicals" that the young HRC admired so much and even wrote an admiring letter to Saul Alinsky, but one presumes he wouldn't rule out such Bolshevik tactics.
Of course, two wrongs don't make a right either.
Lawlessness is just indicative of the low moral level society has sunk to.
And it should stop.
Oh and by the way, Donald Trump will have Dr. Ben Carson on his team helping to advise about Obamacare and what to do with it.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Oh and by the way, Donald Trump will have Dr. Ben Carson on his team helping to advise about Obamacare and what to do with it.

What a relief.

[Karl Henning]

Oh and by the way, Donald Trump will have Dr. Ben Carson on his team helping to advise about Obamacare and what to do with it.

I like your sense of humor!

[Turner]

It is completely goofy for a host country not only to have to accommodate itself to the cultural and religious differences of the guests but be hostages to violence, rape and murder.

"When Italian immigrants were 'the other'":
- http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/10/opinion/falco-italian-immigrants/
- https://books.google.dk/books?id=_xX2WKoyfZEC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=xenophobia+italians+mafia+new+york&source=bl&ots=XWlB0EJNxN&sig=D2OczvmpiPad6gSX1TEpF9QBLaE&hl=da&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsspzdm57QAhUFCSwKHYm6AcwQ6AEIOzAE#v=onepage&q=xenophobia%20italians%20mafia%20new%20york&f=false
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mafia

[Karl Henning]

It is completely goofy to attribute the violence, rape and murder glibly to the cultural and religious differences of immigrants.

[zamyrabyrd]

It is completely goofy to attribute the violence, rape and murder glibly to the cultural and religious differences of immigrants.

Not when their scriptures clearly say kill the unbeliever.

[ritter]

Not when their scriptures clearly say kill the unbeliever.

Well...a basic tenet of a civilized society is that people should be judged on their actions, not based on the group they belong to.

As for the scriptutres, there's quite a few things in our book that would raise some eyebroes, and which if followed litrerally would land you in jail.

[zamyrabyrd]

Well...a basic tenet of a civilized society is that people should be judged on their actions, not based on the group they belong to. As for the scriptures, there's quite a few things in our book that would raise some eyebroes, and which if followed literally would land you in jail.

I've been through this one before. The raids and killings in the Old Testament were time and place limited.
As for your first statement, the actions of a certain group have a LOT to be desired.
The burden is on them to prove they are peace loving, not to hear excuses from the victims.

[North Star]

I've been through this one before. The raids and killings in the Old Testament were time and place limited.

As are the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, or the Planned Parenthood attack, for instance. 

[ritter]

As for your first statement, the actions of a certain group have a LOT to be desired.
The burden is on them to prove they are peace loving, not to hear excuses from the victims.

Another tenet of any civilised society is that you are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way aorund. But it seems to me that the word "civillisation" has become unfashionable...

[zamyrabyrd]

"When Italian immigrants were 'the other'":
- http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/10/opinion/falco-italian-immigrants/

Also the Sacco-Vanzetti case (1920-21) in which the two were executed for murders they did not commit.
But we don't have chips on our shoulders. I never heard resentment from my extended family or desire for retribution.
My grandfather refused to pay protection money for his barbershop in South Philly soon after he arrived.
As a result he and his family were forced to move and he had to find different work.

[zamyrabyrd]

Another tenet of any civilised society is that you are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way aorund. But it seems to me that the word "civillisation" has become unfashionable...

If you were presented with a bowl of 500 candies and were told that only two have poison, would you eat any of them? The need for vetting is not theoretical after 9/11 and all the other atrocities, that have pockmarked our modern history.

[zamyrabyrd]

As are the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, or the Planned Parenthood attack, for instance. 

Did God tell the US to go to war in Iraq? George Dubya for all practical purposes didn't seem to be a religious man anyway. It was not only a complete waste but caused untold destruction with the detritus of spent uranium that will be lying around for the next 100,000 years or so.
As for an 'attack' on Planned Parenthood, who's killing whom?

[Turner]

If you were presented with a bowl of 500 candies and were told that only two have poison, would you eat any of them?

I think you´ve made your point very clear now.

[ritter]

If you were presented with a bowl of 500 candies and were told that only two have poison, would you eat any of them? The need for vetting is not theoretical after 9/11 and all the other atrocities, that have pockmarked our modern history.

Human beings are certainly not pieces of candy....Just remember that you (whatever your background) may be seen excatly the same way by someone "vetting" in the future. But that would be wrong, wouldn't it...