Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Karl Henning]

Ok so does Daughter Ogler here have any shot of winning in November?

That shot is barely on the table, at best.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Canadians are celebrating Thanksgiving today.

Among the things you have to be thankful for: a decent, rational leader.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Anyone saw this picture of Daugher Ogler/Child Molester with poor Ivanka?

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/02/ivanka-trump-strokes-donald-trumps-face-in-creepy-throwback-pic/\

or this one:



I have THREE daughters and that picture does not look sane to me...

[Gurn Blanston]

Anyone saw this picture of Daugher Ogler/Child Molester with poor Ivanka?

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/02/ivanka-trump-strokes-donald-trumps-face-in-creepy-throwback-pic/\

or this one:



I have THREE daughters and that picture does not look sane to me...

I do notice she has a death-grip on his tiny hands....

[PerfectWagnerite]

I do notice she has a death-grip on his tiny hands....

Probably to prevent his hands from groping higher...

[zamyrabyrd]

Trump´s Taj Mahal closing down today, 3000 losing their jobs:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Trump-Taj-Mahal-Closes-After-26-Years-on-Atlantic-City-Boardwalk-396507061.html

Good riddance to that eyesore!

[zamyrabyrd]

With Ives, you go back to a kindler, gentler, more optimistic America. At least that's what the illusion tells you.

I think of Gershwin in that context. Composers and writers who encompass the spirit of an age could be a good subject for a thread.

[Karl Henning]

Clinton was best when facing the audience questioners directly, expressing a desire to bring the country together and reminding them of her accomplishments. But she won the debate early on. In keeping her cool and indicting Trump's bad behavior and finally provoking him to threaten to put her in jail, she made certain no one not already in Trump's corner would sign on with him. As in the first debate and the vice-presidential debate, she created more than enough material for a new raft of ads. She's well on her way to a victory in November; how big it will be is the only question.

[Karl Henning]

Good riddance to that eyesore!

No kidding!

[Karl Henning]

I think of Gershwin in that context. Composers and writers who encompass the spirit of an age could be a good subject for a thread.

I need to find that Gershwin bio which I started, oh, it must be five or six years ago now . . . .

[Karl Henning]

[El Tupé] showed during last night's second presidential debate in St. Louis that he is willing to go down in flames, and he is happy to take down-ballot Republicans with him.

[Karl Henning]

Conservative Washington Examiner columnist Byron York argues that "Trump's performance will shut down Republican defections from his struggling campaign, at least for now": "Say you were a Republican lawmaker contemplating breaking with Trump. You didn't do it Saturday, when several GOP officials jumped, because you wanted to see how Trump would do in the debate Sunday night. Now you've seen it — a more aggressive, hard-hitting, and focused effort than Trump's losing performance in Debate One — and you're probably not going to abandon Trump now."

Weekly Standard Executive Editor Bill Kristol concurs but describes this as a fatal mistake: "Here's the problem: Some Republican leaders could well make the mistake of thinking that because Trump wasn't destroyed at the debate, there isn't now a dire need to act. They could decide that because Trump didn't dissolve into a puddle in the center of the town hall, the situation has stabilized, and the status quo is sustainable. That would be a fatal mistake. The Declaration of Independence identified the problem: 'All experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.' Republicans may be disposed to suffer, rather than take bold action, contrary to the forms to which they are accustomed, to shove Trump aside. Republican leaders may think, or hope, that Trump is a sufferable evil. They will be cruelly disappointed in that judgment."

[PerfectWagnerite]

[El Tupé] showed during last night's second presidential debate in St. Louis that he is willing to go down in flames, and he is happy to take down-ballot Republicans with him.

I am good with that

Anyway I am surprised The Groper is still in it. People have gotten fired for saying/doing a lot less. Don Imus was fired for calling the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy headed 'ho's" in a joke.

[zamyrabyrd]

I need to find that Gershwin bio which I started, oh, it must be five or six years ago now . . . .

One of my favorite persons and composers as well. There is a juncture in which a composer (or writer) is not only influenced by an era but serves to define, or even embody it.

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

[snipped Kristol quote]

If Bill Kristol is saying this, that's good news for Trump, because Kristol has never been right about anything.

[San Antone]

The Republicans dissing Trump have their own races to consider, and I doubt their un-endorsement will change any votes.  Although I did write an angry email to my Governor this morning after seeing him call for Trump to step aside.  I won't be voting for Bill Haslam for anything in the future, he' been pretty lackluster overall, anyway.

The Republicans walking away from Trump are essentially RINOs but I do hope they win their elections so we keep the Senate.

My favorite debate moments were when Trump called Hillary "the devil" and promised to appoint a special prosecutor if elected.  That second one got him some votes, I'm sure.

All in all, Trump did well - almost as good as when he body slammed Vince McMahon:

https://www.youtube.com/v/TuesauNtqTU

[(poco) Sforzando]

All in all, Trump did well - almost as good as when he body slammed Vince McMahon:

Yes, that's quite a recommendation.

[San Antone]

Yes, that's quite a recommendation.

I guess you don't see the connection between politics and pro wrestling.   

Pretty obvious to me.

[(poco) Sforzando]

I think of Gershwin in that context. Composers and writers who encompass the spirit of an age could be a good subject for a thread.

Ives is the perfect composer to represent a nostalgic image of a more innocent, optimistic America: the Holidays Symphony, Symphony No. 2, the Concord Sonata paying homage to all the great transcendentalist authors of the mid-19th century, etc. - without any hint of the darker side of American history, especially the slavery and racism that affect us all to this day. Ives is all about brass bands and the Fourth of July. Gershwin above all in Porgy and Bess provides the offset that reminds us of the black experience.

[(poco) Sforzando]

I guess you don't see the connection between politics and pro wrestling.   

Pretty obvious to me.

I guess you don't have much sense of when someone is addressing you ironically.