Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Madiel]

To get onto the newly revived email topic...

I just read this from an Australian report on the subject:

[Huma Abedin] said it was difficult to print from the State Department's email system so she routinely forwarded documents to her private accounts when she needed to print them out.

Seriously?!??!?! The leaders of the free world can't manage an email system with a print function?!!??!

Okay, the FBI can investigate Clinton as much as they want, but this has got to the point where I think the bigger investigation should be into why the hell a department of the United States Government in the 21st century couldn't muster the IT to make printing emails a simple task. That's appalling.

[The new erato]

Perhaps they weren't allowed to print from it (ie printing was disabled)? I can imagine reasons for that.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Depends on whether you're talking gross income or taxable income. Taxable income excludes business expenses (and other deductions). If a household has $400,000 in taxable income then they are really that rich. $400,000 in gross income may or may not be rich.

$400,000 in gross income is rich. Period.
https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/02jesse-klein-relative-wealth16

I remember reading actor Alec Baldwin, with a net worth of about $70 million, saying that he didn't feel rich. So I can not feel rich either, I will gladly exchange my net worth for his.

[71 dB]

I remember reading actor Alec Baldwin, with a net worth of about $70 million, saying that he didn't feel rich. So I can not feel rich either, I will gladly exchange my net worth for his.

Billionaires don't feel richer than millionaires. Just shows how meaningless money is for happiness. From my point of view $70 million is a surrealistic amount of money. Even $7 million is. That's how much you can win on a Finnish Lottery. Last year I made about 25.000 euros (less than $30.000) before taxes and even I belong to the richest 10 % in the world!

Alec Baldwin should feel filthy rich, because that's what he is. Normal people living in the rich western countries can barely reach 1 % of his net worth in their life.

[Karl Henning]

Someone who feels no material want, not "feeling rich" is . . . well, you guys sort out the adjective.

[North Star]

Someone who feels no material want, not "feeling rich" is . . . well, you guys sort out the adjective.

Whatever the adjective, the solution is surely pouring more money on them!

[Karl Henning]

Whatever the adjective, the solution is surely pouring more money on them!

Truly!  It is not fair, that they don't feel rich yet!

[Turner]

Alec Baldwin should feel filthy rich, because that's what he is. Normal people living in the rich western countries can barely reach 1 % of his net worth in their life.

I agree with this. My impression is, that in the US, a self-characterization as "rich" is generally and traditionally measured from a starting point that is higher than in Europe, though. Maybe just a prejudice, however, or based on outdated stereotypes.

[Pat B]

$400,000 in gross income is rich. Period.

Not for a small business owner with $350,000 in business expenses.

[Karl Henning]

Comey was confronted with an unprecedented situation and two very bad decisions, and he chose short-term pain over the prospect of a long-term scandal. Nobody should envy him right now.

[Pat B]

Like I've said before, I think Democrats will experience acute buyers remorse.

I think both parties will regret their nominations. I doubt Ds will regret not voting for Trump.

[Pat B]

Trump supporters have discovered a foolproof way to prove that some people are actually trying to commit retail vote fraud.

[Turner]

Trump supporters have discovered a foolproof way to prove that some people are actually trying to commit retail vote fraud.

...

[Gurn Blanston]

Not for a small business owner with $350,000 in business expenses.

That's not HIS income, it is the business's income. If he has an ounce of intelligence, he should view it that way. His income, in this simplistic scenario, is $50,000 gross.

[Madiel]

Trump supporters have discovered a foolproof way to prove that some people are actually trying to commit retail vote fraud.

Well, it's also a nice way of showing that such attempts fail.

[Pat B]

That's not HIS income, it is the business's income. If he has an ounce of intelligence, he should view it that way. His income, in this simplistic scenario, is $50,000 gross.

I am not a tax professional, but my understanding is that if the business is not incorporated (e.g. an LLC) then that distinction does not necessarily exist and would not necessarily be worthwhile. I know people who own LLCs and can ask whether they file separate returns.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-llcs-are-taxed-29675.html
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p334/ch08.html

[Madiel]

I am not a tax professional, but my understanding is that if the business is not incorporated (e.g. an LLC) then that distinction does not necessarily exist and would not necessarily be worthwhile. I know people who own LLCs and can ask whether they file separate returns.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-llcs-are-taxed-29675.html
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p334/ch08.html

I am certainly not an American tax professional. The first of those links strongly suggests that the owners of the LLC have to report 50k of personal income, not 400k.

[Ken B]

This is the vilest thing I can recall seeing in an American election since I was a child. I don't know if you will be able to watch it, it has been blocked in some places. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/video-beating-homeless-trump-supporter-now-blocked-can-viewed/
A homeless woman whose possessions fit in a small cart was physically attacked and then mocked as she lay on the sidewalk, for trying to protect Trump's star in the pavement from vandals. Some of her few belongings were destroyed. As she lay there, possibly hurt, not much moving, silent, she was taunted by the crowd, and all the taunts, every one, were about Trump. Trump who won't help her now, Trump this, Trump that, Trump the other. Those taunting her were all convinced they have the moral high ground. They were proud of what they were doing. She was just one of the deplorables.

[Madiel]

Yuck.

[drogulus]

     

This is the vilest thing I can recall seeing in an American election since I was a child. I don't know if you will be able to watch it, it has been blocked in some places. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/video-beating-homeless-trump-supporter-now-blocked-can-viewed/
A homeless woman whose possessions fit in a small cart was physically attacked and then mocked as she lay on the sidewalk, for trying to protect Trump's star in the pavement from vandals. Some of her few belongings were destroyed. As she lay there, possibly hurt, not much moving, silent, she was taunted by the crowd, and all the taunts, every one, were about Trump. Trump who won't help her now, Trump this, Trump that, Trump the other. Those taunting her were all convinced they have the moral high ground. They were proud of what they were doing. She was just one of the deplorables.

     Other than Drudge, Gateway Pundit and RT, where is the coverage? Note that this incident is occurring next to a Telemundo news truck, and in addition to the guy making the video there are what look like news cameras and crew in the picture, a crowd of watchers that seem to be curious but unconcerned and the protagonists in the foreground playing the "Hillary supporters".

     So, we'll see, won't we? News coverage would take an interest in these people. Who are they, why are they acting like this in front of several cameras?

     Later: Breitbart and Infowars have picked it up. So far it's Putin and the alt right.