Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Parsifal]

I already said I am against Hillary as a shill for Planned Parenthood.

Planned parenthood is an admirable organization which provides reproductive health care for people who would otherwise not have access to it.

[Brian]

I won't say whom I voted for in the top spot, but the person was a New Yorker.

Really thought you were a Gary Johnson guy. 

Compared to Hillary Clinton, everyone has the moral high ground.

lol, yes, a tax-cheating, proudly racist, self-proclaimed sex predator who skips out of payments to contractors, jokes about murdering enemies, and walks into dressing rooms to ogle naked teenagers has the moral high ground versus somebody who doesn't store emails properly.

[zamyrabyrd]

Compared to Hillary Clinton, everyone has the moral high ground.

With HRC, it is difficult to know where to start! Anyone who did 1/100th of the funny business concerning her private email server would have been in the can already. Then there is Benghazi. The Clinton Foundation is a stinking cesspool of corruption. The Haitians hate her and her husband for screwing them over. Whitewater-gate, setting up Billy Dale in in 1993 Travel-gate, etc. Hey, I don't need to wear out my piano fingers typing all it up again, read about it here:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a-brief-guide-to-clinton-scandals-from-travelgate-to-emailgate/article/2562906

[zamyrabyrd]

Planned parenthood is an admirable organization which provides reproductive health care for people who would otherwise not have access to it.

Pardon me while I puke. Actual health care is a small proportion of what they do. Otherwise they are a shill for eventual social engineering, meaning government control of reproduction.

[Brian]

Pardon me while I puke. Actual health care is a small proportion of what they do.

False.

Here are actual facts:

- Planned Parenthood provides more than 270,000 Pap tests and more than 360,000 breast exams in a single year, critical services in detecting cancer.
- Planned Parenthood provides more than 4.2 million tests and treatments for sexually transmitted infections each year, including more than 650,000 HIV tests.
- Three percent of all Planned Parenthood health services are abortion services.

[Parsifal]

Pardon me while I puke. Actual health care is a small proportion of what they do. Otherwise they are a shill for eventual social engineering, meaning government control of reproduction.

They are not a shill for anything. They give individual women control over their own reproductive health. Margaret Sanger was not a racist or an advocate of eugenics. She was an advocate for women, especially impoverished women, taking individual control over their reproductive decisions.

[zamyrabyrd]

False.
Here are actual facts:
- Planned Parenthood provides more than 270,000 Pap tests and more than 360,000 breast exams in a single year, critical services in detecting cancer.
- Planned Parenthood provides more than 4.2 million tests and treatments for sexually transmitted infections each year, including more than 650,000 HIV tests.
- Three percent of all Planned Parenthood health services are abortion services.

It depends how the statistics are interpreted. 3% of services doesn't mean 3% of income. In fact, it accounts for about 10-12% by some:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/05/07/_3_percent_of_planned_parenthood_s_services_are_abortion_but_what_about.html
Consider this:
"...Say I open a watch store. I sell lots of those cheap plastic digital ones that you can get at discount stores. And I sell some Timex and Casio, and also some nicer designer watches. But then I also keep a few super-expensive Brightlings and Patek Phillipes in stock. And maybe those only make up 3 percent of my sales. But selling only a handful of fancy watches brings in far more than 3 percent of my REVENUES. And so it is with abortion.

It's impossible to know how much money Planned Parenthood brings in for abortion. Because as specific as the annual report is about the number of services it provides, it's far less detailed when talking about where its revenue comes from (They are within their rights, so whatever). But it's easy to calculate, as the Weekly Standard did, that Planned Parenthood gets at least a third of its clinic income—and more than 10 percent of all its revenue, government funding included—from its abortion procedures..."

[zamyrabyrd]

They are not a shill for anything. They give individual women control over their own reproductive health. Margaret Sanger was not a racist or an advocate of eugenics. She was an advocate for women, especially impoverished women, taking individual control over their reproductive decisions.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/7-shocking-quotes-by-planned-parenthood-founder-margaret-sanger

1) "We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."

2) "I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan."
In 1926, Sanger spoke at a Ku Klux Klan rally in 1926 in Silver Lake, New Jersey. Following the invitation, Sanger describes her elation after receiving multiple speaking requests from white supremacy groups.

3) "They are...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born.
Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease...Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks [of people] that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant."

4) "Birth control is nothing more or less than...weeding out the unfit. Sanger famously coined the term "birth control" with the intention of eliminating the reproduction of human beings who were considered "less fit." In her writings from "Morality and Birth Control" and "Birth Control and the New Race," the Planned Parenthood founder noted that the chief aim of the practice of birth control is to produce a 'cleaner race'."

5) "Human beings who never should have been born at all."
from: "Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying ... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste.
Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.
The main objects of the Population Congress would be to apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring[;] to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization.

6) "I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world."
In a 1957 interview with journalist Mike Wallace, Sanger advocated that the greatest evil is a family that chooses to bring children into the world. Sanger, who advocated for a system requiring every American family to submit a request to the government to have a child, told America Weekly in 1934 that it has "become necessary to establish a system of birth permits."

7) "But for my view, I believe that there should be no more babies."

In a 1947 interview that surfaced via the British Pathe, Sanger described her desire for women in the developed world to cease completely from reproduction.  When asked by the reporter whether this would be impractical to ask women who desire children, but would no longer be able to conceive in 10 years, Sanger said, "I should think instead of being impractical, it is really very practical and intelligent and humane."

Of course, Planned Parenthood as an organization is completely unaware of her social engineering ideas that were concurrent with National Socialism in Germany actually carrying them out.

[Parsifal]

Inflammatory quote taken out of context notwithstanding, the goal of Sanger's work was to allow women to make their own reproductive choices, with the goal of allowing women to avoid conceiving children that they did not have the resources to care for.

The current goal of Planned Parenthood is to give women control over their own reproductive health and decisions. I find that worthy of support.

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

lol, yes, a tax-cheating, proudly racist, self-proclaimed sex predator who skips out of payments to contractors, jokes about murdering enemies, and walks into dressing rooms to ogle naked teenagers has the moral high ground versus somebody who doesn't store emails properly.

But seriously folks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI

Gloating and cackling about a murder you were involved in is the sort of thing I expect from a Mafia don. Except that Mafia dons usually have the sense not to do such things on TV.

Anyway - I've already gone out today and cast my vote against the plutocracy / corporatocracy.

[Turner]

My wife and I have been planning for some time on moving to Israel.  So I will have another country's bizarre political scene to observe.

Normality seems to comprise an even wider palette there ...

[zamyrabyrd]

But seriously folks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI
Gloating and cackling about a murder you were involved in is the sort of thing I expect from a Mafia don. Except that Mafia dons usually have the sense not to do such things on TV.
Anyway - I've already gone out today and cast my vote against the plutocracy / corporatocracy.

This is a perfect instance if men want to sneer that women have no business in war, or at least the couch potato variety, she just proved it. Bang, bang, as long as you don't have to see actual blood, what fun! She doesn't understand what it means to support and give back up as in the execrable failure in Benghazi. it is said she has "experience" but not the kind that say, an Eisenhower or Kennedy had. 

[Brian]

Bang, bang, as long as you don't have to see actual blood, what fun!

Agreed. That makes 2 of them. Remember when Trump joked that he always wanted to get a Purple Heart?

[Brian]

"The Trump campaign is filing a lawsuit against the Clark County Registrar's Office for keeping polls open yesterday for two additional hours beyond their close time (this is being reported by CNN's Jim Sciutto). It's slightly confounding that they are doing so, since voters are allowed to cast ballots past the official poll closing time, as long as they were in line before the end of official voting hours."

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Also, Eric Trump tweeted a picture of his ballot with the bubble filled next to his dad's name. In New York that's a crime, and if convicted he would face up to a year in jail.

(I think the no pictures laws are stupid and wrong.)

[Karl Henning]

Since El Tupé is probably the most litigious candidate in history, it is no surprise that the lawsuits or threats thereof will fly.

[North Star]

(I think the no pictures laws are stupid and wrong.)

Well there is the scenario where you are paid or coerced into voting.

[Brian]

Well there is the scenario where you are be paid or coerced into voting.

Ah, true.

I can now laugh at Eric Trump with a cleaner conscience.

[drogulus]

This is a perfect instance if men want to sneer that women have no business in war, or at least the couch potato variety, she just proved it. Bang, bang, as long as you don't have to see actual blood, what fun! She doesn't understand what it means to support and give back up as in the execrable failure in Benghazi. it is said she has "experience" but not the kind that say, an Eisenhower or Kennedy had. 

     She certainly didn't have the experience of JFK at the Bay of Pigs. Where was the backup? And where was the impeachment?

     Clinton gloated over the death of Qaddafi. I don't think that proves anything particularly bad.

     I thought it was Bin Laden at first. My mistake.
     

[Spineur]

The Harris bar in Paris organizes the "straw vote" at each US presidential election reserved to US expats...
AND THE WINNER IS....HRC by a 2.5/1 margin  0:)

[(poco) Sforzando]

I can now laugh at Eric Trump with a cleaner conscience.

I have never had any issues laughing at Trump's children, little Barron included.
(God, can you imagine how fucked up that kid is going to be 10 years from now.)