Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Florestan]

If Trump wins this the underlying reason will be the contempt many voters feel directed at them. I sadly have seen a lot of that here. As I contemplate the very real chance of President The Donald I wonder how many will want to rethink how productive that attitude really is. President Trump, should he really win,  may not prove as bad as many of us fear, but it's a sobering prospect.

Wow - this IS interesting!!  One message is loud and clear;  the ordinary people are fed up with political correctness, identity politics, gender bifurcation, trigger warnings, safe spaces, "black lives matter".  They're telling the elites what they think.  Win or lose for Trump things will never be the same again.  America doesn't want the inner urbanites telling them what to think, how to live and what to do.  The western world is fed up to the back teeth with this mentality.

That pretty much sums it up, but only time will tell if Trump is really the guy to change things or just another big (and foul) mouth demagogue.

For instance, I am curious about how he will make good of his promise to bring back jobs in the US. That, I think, will be the greatest challenge.

[Rinaldo]

His speech was unusually civil and coirteous.

I can imagine him being super scared right now.

[Florestan]

My biggest concern is related to the USA policy regarding Europe and especially Eastern Europe.

[Rinaldo]

My biggest concern is related to the USA policy regarding Europe and especially Eastern Europe.

Exactly. Chalk up another win for the Kremlin.

[knight66]

He was elected in order to:
Have the wall built
Ban Muslims
Rebuild the steel industry
Lock Hilary up

I don't think any of those things will happen....but plenty will. Christy, Guilini, Pence.....what a bunch.

Mike

[Florestan]

Exactly. Chalk up another win for the Kremlin.

Brexit. Turkey. Trump. What next, I wonder?

That apart, it is the democratically expressed will of the majority of the American people and it must be understood and respected. And irrespective of our personal political opinions and feelings, we should acknowledge that his winning against all odds and against the overwhelming majority of the media and the political establishment is a stunning, unprecedented achievement.

Let´s hope he won´t be as bad and irresponsible a POTUS as he is supposed to be. That´s all we can do at the moment.

[Turner]

My biggest concern is related to the USA policy regarding Europe and especially Eastern Europe.

Indeed, especially for Ukraine and Eastern Europe, this is very worrying. And further, it shows a populist, authoritarian style generally prevailing, Le Pen might becoming one of the next winners.

[vandermolen]

This is a bad time to be a liberal.

[Marc]

Congratulations to the USA for having a wonderful, vigorous, peaceful democracy!!!

That's the spirit!

[ComposerOfAvantGarde]

FUCK

[Madiel]

His speech was unusually civil and coirteous.

It's the fact that being civil and courteous is unusual for him that speaks volumes.

Does anyone think he'll be able to consistently act like a Statesman, after spending at least a year mocking women, Mexicans, Muslims, the disabled, prisoners of war and basically anyone who didn't fall on the right side of his schoolyard rhetoric? And apparently succeeding because his base lapped up his lack of "political correctness" (which is the term used for when people aren't inclined to give respect to those unlike themselves)?

Count me among the skeptics. I don't think this is a man capable of governing for "all Americans" because everything he's shown about his mindset consistently shows that he believes you win by making someone else lose. You don't get what you want by negotiation, you get what you want by humiliating your opponent and then saying "Ha! Ha!" like Nelson on The Simpsons.

His appeal isn't built on "all Americans", his appeal is built on promising traditional white Christian America it can have its country back.

[Herman]

Wow - this IS interesting!!  One message is loud and clear;  the ordinary people are fed up with political correctness, identity politics, gender bifurcation, trigger warnings, safe spaces, "black lives matter". 

I take it your 'ordinary people' means 'white people'?

You seem to be unaware that white identity politics (which Trump's campaign overwhelmingly was about, 'escorting' the occasional black person out of his rallies because he or she did not belong there) is identity politics too.

and when your candidate talks about women the way Trump does, as 'a piece of ass' and nothing else, I don't think he's qualified to end 'gender bifurcation'.

[Que]

I'm not surprised by this result at all. It is Brexit all over again: people are scared, fed up with the ruling elite and want to get back to the "good old days". Trump won because he told people what they wanted to hear and because he was an outsider. The Democrats should have picked another candidate....

Q

[vandermolen]

I'm not surprised by this result at all. It is Brexit all over again: people are scared, fed up with the ruling elite and want to get back to the "good old days". Trump won because he told people what they wanted to hear and because he was an outsider. The Democrats should have picked another candidate....

Q

+1

[marvinbrown]

I'm not surprised by this result at all. It is Brexit all over again: people are scared, fed up with the ruling elite and want to get back to the "good old days". Trump won because he told people what they wanted to hear and because he was an outsider. The Democrats should have picked another candidate....

Q

  +2

  marvin

[The new erato]

My biggest concern is related to the USA policy regarding Europe and especially Eastern Europe.

Yes, except for the fact that Putin may be the biggest winner here, I consider Trump mostly a problem for the American People.

[Spineur]

My biggest concern is related to the USA policy regarding Europe and especially Eastern Europe.

Who congratulates Trump: Marine Le Pen, Vladimir Putin
"Qui se ressemble s'assemble"

[71 dB]

He was elected in order to:
Have the wall built
Ban Muslims
Rebuild the steel industry
Lock Hilary up

I don't think any of those things will happen....but plenty will. Christy, Guilini, Pence.....what a bunch.

Mike

Well, if the wall is build of steel... 

Kesha on instagram: "breathe in. breathe out. I'm freaking out too but. together we are gonna be ok. we got each other, animals. spread love✨spread hope"✨

[Florestan]

His appeal isn't built on "all Americans", his appeal is built on promising traditional white Christian America it can have its country back.

And with this appeal he won, which logically implies two things: (1) traditional white Christian Americans are a majority and (2) they feel their country has been taken away from them.

people are scared, fed up with the ruling elite and want to get back to the "good old days".

We can´t really blame them, can we? The biggest problem is that instead of understanding, compassion and sincere efforts to redress their economic and social problems, what they get from the political establishment and the intellectual elites is neglect and lies from the former and contempt and mockery from the latter. No wonder they strike back in anger.

Trump won because he told people what they wanted to hear

That´s precisely how elections are won, but I have a minor correction: he told a majority of people what they wanted to hear. I´m sure that Hillary´s voters too heard from her exactly what they wanted to hear.

[Florestan]

Who congratulates Trump: Marine Le Pen, Vladimir Putin
"Qui se ressemble s'assemble"

Well, the first to congratulate him was Hillary Clinton. Romanian President Klaus Johannis congratulated him as well.

Congratulations means nothing, it´s just diplomatic standard. It´s not they that I am really worried about.

A propos: what about next year´s French presidential elections? Does Marine Le Pen have any chance of winning? I imagine she is now hoping big, high and bold.